Has anybody tested this new low-end FMA-influenced CRKT piece?

Background: CRKT has been trying to produce reasonably priced defensive daily carry folders for a while now. Their KFF has been widely available at around $45 at discount.

It's a good piece, but the lockwork is a bit hinky; it's a production linerlock with all the inherent reliability issues therein, but it has a manually-engaged secondary safety that does raise reliability, but it's a second manual operation to engage - there may not be time to do so in a sudden violent encounter, you may not have the concentration to spare to nail a 1/8th" across lever, and the switch position is activated by the thumb in a place radically different from where the thumb needs to end up in any typical Asian-derived final grip.

CRKT has just released a new knife that may partially address these concerns, and was built with definate FMA influences right from the get-go by a good designer, Steve Ryan of "BioHazard" fame, one of the wildest megafolders ever made
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It's called the Seven:
http://www.crkt.com/ryansevn.html

One of the ways a linerlock can fail is that "white knuckling" as you hold the knife can send your finger flesh down into the liner release and accidently operate it. Ryan's usual answer to the "white knuckle problem" is to design the grip and lock release such that the forefinger is naturally the heck away from the release. I've held other Ryans that worked this way and judging purely by the pic, that's what's happening here.

The list price on these is $60 - considering that the KFF lists at $65, we can expect to see the Seven "on the street" down at the KFF's usual price if not lower.

I'd be curious to see a review by a serious FMA player (which isn't me!). Granted, it's still a low-end knife with a 3.5" blade, but most of us have friends who don't carry anything at all and if these things work, they're cheap enough to hand out free and get them *something*
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. I know I've handed out six free pieces of various types over the last...lesse, four years now, and two have been drawn against muggers so far
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Jim
 

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Jim, I am currently on a CRKT binge (last 3 purchases), and I definitely want the model 7 !!

It looks dynamite, except for the oversized thumb stud. Wassup with that ??
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Otherwise, I really like the looks, and if it comes in at <$50 street value, it's a winner.
 
Interesting style, but just another liner lock folder from my point of view. Does it have the LAWKS?

 
Steve, ya, it's got the LAWKS system. But what I suspect is that because your forefinger may be well away from the liner release in typical Steve Ryan style, this particular critter may have a "better than the usual CRKT" linerlock even if the LAWKS isn't tripped or slips off.

And I can't be certain, but the grip shape suggests that the thumb web may be able to slip far enough forward (esp. if you have big hands) to trip the LAWKS forward.

Anyways...the blade shape, grip and wild forward rake suggests an excellent "slasher" for it's size, if so that would also reduce the need for top-drawer lock strength.

Mind you, I'd love to see it scaled up to a 4" or even bigger blade and get a better lock
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Jim
 
Hi Smoke,

The custom Crawford Wortacs look really cool. However, I am having a hard time finding pictures of the Timberline Wortac. Do you know of a url that has pics?

Thanks.
 
eda_koppo, I still plan on getting another Spyderco it's just a few things have changed. I'm starting to dedicate one fighting piece and one general sheeple piece. Ideally, I'd like a G-10 plain folder under $40 tip up. I can live with AUS 6 and 8, the grips of both the Wortac and Ryan I like the look of.

Still coming on Saturday?
 
Yo RH, the oversized stud is so you can find and use it while all adrenalled up. Fine motor skills (such as finding a small button and moving it in a graceful arc while trying to reach it while you are being mugged) go to skit in a high speed confrontation or even when you go run around the block for a while.

Try this drill: do a few hard sprints to simulate what level of adrenaline you will face during sudden encounter and then try to grab your folder and open it coherently. Run for 20 minuntes and when the squirrel rustles the leaves next to your head as you run by see how fast you can manipulate that itty bitty stud on the BM or whoever's folder. We do knife drills where you clinch up and grapple a bit, then when you hea r the shout "KNIFE!" you try to reach the rubber knife in your pocket. Very difficult to make the fingers work.

I carry spyderco's when I run in summer as I can easily hit the hole and open it, but since Al P's companion is now available for $32 I wil get one of those. I like the ryan design, and the big stud looks like it can be easily hit. For $40 how can I not try it?

parker
 
On the website it mentions an influence of the Filipino barong in design. However, the barong is much larger in all physical aspects and thus the applications of this "mini barong" would be different. Looks pretty though and certainly will do much damage wielded by skilled hands.

 
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