Has anyone heard of these knives?

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tim37a

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I ran across these knives at a Wine and Arts festival last weekend and I would like to know more about them, specifically about their quality. They are all damascus steel but the people selling them had no idea what steel was used, the hardness, heat treat, etc. The company is Tooth and Nail Knives. They supposedly are made in England. They run from $200 to $300, which makes me suspicious about a knife made in England. Anyone?? www.toothandnailknives.com.

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Tim
 
I went to a gun show last year and someone had some knives that looked a lot like these. Selling price was between $75-200something. When asked specific questions I got the, "I don't make them, I just sell them" response and was pointed towards the "shop" in the Madison WI area. I got the suspicion they were foreign made, bought for cheap, and just resold here. Without have any kind of mark on them it makes you wonder.

To that seller or site specifically, never heard of them.
 
looks like Pakistani pot metal Damascus crap to me. If the sellers are gonna charge that much and not have a clue about how they are built, what steel they use, or how hard they are, STAY AWAY. There are tons of similarly made knives for much less all over the interwebs.....save your money and get something nice. Plenty of options in that price range from reputable makers here on the forum, and you will know exactly what you are getting.
 
Yeah my first thought was pakistani damascus like the buck and bear knives that turn up every so often for 1/4 the price. Rumor is they often rockwell out in the mid forties and thats if you are lucky enough to get one you cant peel like a pilsbury flaky layer bisquit. If these knives were legit high quality items i feel they would be a bit more tranparent in how or even who makes them. I would proceed with caution.
 
PURPLEDC said:
Yeah my first thought was pakistani damascus like the buck and bear knives that turn up every so often for 1/4 the price. Rumor is they often rockwell out in the mid forties and thats if you are lucky enough to get one you cant peel like a pilsbury flaky layer bisquit. If these knives were legit high quality items i feel they would be a bit more tranparent in how or even who makes them. I would proceed with caution.
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Awesome post Purple. :thumbup:

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Already the webpage raises a red flag for me - no info on the maker, no 'about us' page. No way I would get one of those.
 
My first thought is that they may be from Two Finger Knife on Ebay. They sell a lot of finished Damascus blades on the bay that is forged in the USA. (Idaho Falls, Idaho) I've bought a couple of blades at 2 Finger and put some scales on them - they actually held their edge quite well.
 
Mystery Damascus from England always rings alarm bells for me. England & Pakistan have a lot of close ties, & England has become a stepping stone for many Pakistani products on the way to the rest of the world. These look like Pakistani blades. Close up pics on the site show the workmanship is poor.
 
I got my son one of these at a gun show.

Guy was from Portland, Oregon. When asked what materials were in the steel, rep said 1095 and 15N20 nickel. Asked him what the RC ran, he stated 58 at the spine and 60-61 to the edge. Asked him if they were made in Oregon as well, he stated that no... they came in from England. Which means "someplace else" to me.

Handle is camel bone, has mosaic pins and nickel bolster. File-work is very rough, but aesthetically not unappealing. I gave him $95 for it. Could I have gotten something better for that kind of cash? Absolutely. But it wasn't what I wanted that mattered at the time, my son wanted it, so I treated him to it. I wouldn't have paid more than I did for it, and actually thought it was a bit expensive... but what the hell. The boy is a good test driver if nothing else.

Rep gave me his phone number and card, said if the boy broke the knife, bring it in and he'll give him another one.

So far, my son hasn't broken it. Cuts like 1095, sharpens like 1095, holds an edge like 1095. Kinda hope he breaks it so I can test the "replacement" warranty, but it's taken all the punishment that a 13 year old can dish out.
 
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