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aj1985

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Do you guys carry 1 or more knife for the many sheeples . I always carry a CLB boker fixed blade, CLB Boker subcom and Sog Trident.

The more and more i would like to use my other two knives for tasks that are a bit bigger I use the Subcom due to the fact that people do not freak out. A person asked me why do you carry THAT it's so dangerous. She was commenting on the subcom.

Why can not people just understand a knife is a tool, & that I like to be prepared.

aj
 
aj1985 said:
A person asked me why do you carry THAT it's so dangerous. She was commenting on the subcom.

Why can not people just understand a knife is a tool, & that I like to be prepared.
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First of all, this is a common problem many of us face.

Second, your response is ideal, an excellent answer to people reacting emotionally or ignorantly: "a knife is a tool, & that I like to be prepared."
 
There are a number of things you should start considering.
1) Your appearance probably does not portray itself as someone who would be using a knife on a regular basis. Atleast you do not give any info on that aspect.
2) Three knives, kinda overkill. I'd give a person like that a rather negative look too. Again, no info on why you need to carry three knives.
3) Perhaps, instead of "wondering" why people are reluctant to be more positive regarding your knives, you could develop a positive dialog with them, instead on wondering.
4) Possibly, restrain yourself on bringing that knive(s) out every time you have to perform a common task. I sense a bit of "attention seeking" here, and all that resulted was negative comments. Put this in lessons learned column.
5) Be more aware of others feelings/opinions prior to "whipping" out one of your three knives when they are not really needed. Basically, use some common sense when around people.
Last) I have no idea what that word "sheeples" refers to, and I really don't care.

Take Care,
JGarth
 
1. What does a knife user look like?
2. He carries 3 knives so he has a folder & fixed, along with the small subcom for sheeple
3. A positive dialog would require input from both sides, maybe he can't get that. There isn't enough info.
4. Using a knife for a common task hardly seems like attention seeking.
5. Feelings have no bearing on the utility of a knife. Use one as long as it's legal.
 
1) Generic appearance of perhaps a skilled tradesman.
2) Three knives is overkill, if not on the job.
3) A more positive approach generally produces productive results, but you have to TRY. Quitters never win.
4) I said perhaps restrain in the company of people who are not accustomed to knives in public.... USE YOUR HEAD ....
5) And feelings are the BOTTOM LINE, ... how do you expect to develop a more positive image of people who use knives more than the average person. Legality is NOT the prime factor here. COMMON sense prevails.
 
most people probably don't need to carry a fixed blade AND a larger folder, but if you want to go for it. I can understand carrying a little folder to avoid freaking dumb people out, even though I don't, and I've never really had problems.
 
Nothin wrong with carrying 3 knives. I carry a BM mini-grip strong side, Delica Wave weak side, and a LM Wave IWB. I can justify each one of them, no problem. I don't tend to flip them out randomly, and mostly I use the tools on my LM more than the other blades I carry, but I don't consider 3 knives excessive.
 
raindog101 said:
Nothin wrong with carrying 3 knives. I carry a BM mini-grip strong side, Delica Wave weak side, and a LM Wave IWB. I can justify each one of them, no problem. I don't tend to flip them out randomly, and mostly I use the tools on my LM more than the other blades I carry, but I don't consider 3 knives excessive.
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Neither do I, and I bet a lot of other people here don't. I carry 4 knives currently, a Delica, LM Fuse, SAK Pioneer, and a Dragonfly.

:)
 
how about to quiet down the doubters you tell us what you were using the subcom for? I can understand people saying something if you were waving it around like a madman, but of course you weren't doing that.

also, I guess I do carry two knives, because I always carry a little gerber multi tool. The knife on it is pretty crappy so I never use it.
 
As long as a multiplicity of knives aren't visible at any one time, it shouldn't be a problem. The problem in the original post was that the tiny knife he was carrying upset someone.

There are people who simply cannot accept any personal carry of knives, however innocuous we realize they are. It's a good idea to minimize dealing with these people, and when necessary remind them that you are using the knife to perform a legitimate task. Beyond that, don't get involved in a conversation with them if they aren't going to be rational about it.
 
2) Three knives, kinda overkill. I'd give a person like that a rather negative look too. Again, no info on why you need to carry three knives.
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Well, for today.

1) Opinel in watch pocket for food use.

2) Cheap Winchester lockback with partially serrated blade clipped to pocket for rough use. For example, I had to trim a brake-light wire that broke loose on my truck yesterday.

3) Erikson 510 on my belt for any other cutting or whittling that needs to be done.

I don't live in a big city, but if I did, I'd probably replace the fixed blade with an SAK.

Carrying three knives is perfectly reasonable. It's the the one's that carry three or four credit cards that seem strange to me.:)
 
Unless you are a professional big game hunter or scout I'm not sure what you would use a fixed blade knife for on an every day basis. Some of your tools seem kinda redundent. A mini-grip, a Swiss Army Knife and a Leatherman would be able to do a much wider assortment of tasks.
 
I guess his CLB fixed blade is the fixed subcom. If so, that's 5 1/2" overall. If he had an MPT (dunno if available actually), that's 6.8" overall.
 
I have to admit that I'm a bit surprised at the number of examples of knifphobia that at least some folks here encounter. I routinely use my EDCs at work in a laboratory on a college campus, and have had maybe one person comment negatively in the last decade. Perhaps I'm just lucky to have worked in places where people know and trust me, but I've got to wonder whether people are not using good knife sense.

When I got my first knife at the age of six or so, both my father and my uncle taught me to use good judgement in *how* to use a knife in public. This was more than three decades ago, and even then they made it abundantly clear that a knife must always be used with good sense and discretion. This meant, among other things, that if there was ever any hint that the knife was being flashed or shown off, rather than being used as a tool, it would be years before I was permitted to have a knife again. It was an early lesson - never stated in quite these terms - that a knife can be interpreted as a weapon because it can BE a weapon. I'd add that my introduction to the automobile a decade or so later was handled in roughly the same way.

Without making any accusations, I have to wonder if some fraction of the stories that I've seen on these forums might be due to a lack of what one might call etiquette, or discipline, or judgement, depending on one's inclinations. It does seem clear that some people have problems, while others carrying the same blades do not. What is not clear to me is the extent to which these differences are best attributed to the people carrying the knife, and to what extent they are attributable to the people doing the reacting.
 
spinynorman said:
I have to admit that I'm a bit surprised at the number of examples of knifphobia that at least some folks here encounter. I routinely use my EDCs at work in a laboratory on a college campus, and have had maybe one person comment negatively in the last decade. Perhaps I'm just lucky to have worked in places where people know and trust me, but I've got to wonder whether people are not using good knife sense.

When I got my first knife at the age of six or so, both my father and my uncle taught me to use good judgement in *how* to use a knife in public. This was more than three decades ago, and even then they made it abundantly clear that a knife must always be used with good sense and discretion. This meant, among other things, that if there was ever any hint that the knife was being flashed or shown off, rather than being used as a tool, it would be years before I was permitted to have a knife again. It was an early lesson - never stated in quite these terms - that a knife can be interpreted as a weapon because it can BE a weapon. I'd add that my introduction to the automobile a decade or so later was handled in roughly the same way.

Without making any accusations, I have to wonder if some fraction of the stories that I've seen on these forums might be due to a lack of what we might call etiquette, or discipline, or judgement, depending on one's inclinations. It does seem clear that some people have problems, while others carrying the same blades do not. What is not clear to me is the extent to which these differences are best attributed to the people carrying the knife, and to what extent they are attributable to the people doing the reacting.
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Hit the nail on head :thumbup:

I don't think three knives is excessive, but at the same time, you have to use your head before you use your knife in public.
 
JGarth said:
There are a number of things you should start considering.
1) Your appearance probably does not portray itself as someone who would be using a knife on a regular basis. Atleast you do not give any info on that aspect.
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So I should look a certain way in order to use a knife

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2) Three knives, kinda overkill. I'd give a person like that a rather negative look too. Again, no info on why you need to carry three knives.[/QUOTE]



I don't know about you, but I like to keep one for food, and one for cutting, subcom is there for minimal tasks where you do not need a big knife.


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3) Perhaps, instead of "wondering" why people are reluctant to be more positive regarding your knives, you could develop a positive dialog with them, instead on wondering. [/QUOTE]

Could You please expand on the positive dialog you mentioned above.

I have learned that there is nothing you can say or do in order to change a persons opinions. It is entirely up to them. I can just explain on why i carry a knife.


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4) Possibly, restrain yourself on bringing that knive(s) out every time you have to perform a common task. I sense a bit of "attention seeking" here, and all that resulted was negative comments. Put this in lessons learned column. [/QUOTE]

May i ask how would you open plastic wrap which is 3-5 layers thick or plastic twist ties or boxes on skids which are secured with white plastic rope ( Don't know the exact name) I know i have a strong grip, but please tell me how would you like me open these things without a knife.

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5) Be more aware of others feelings/opinions prior to "whipping" out one of your three knives when they are not really needed. Basically, use some common sense when around people.
Last) I have no idea what that word "sheeples" refers to, and I really don't care.[/QUOTE]


I was brash and young as well when i joined this forum, but because of the many individuals here i have learned to be a better person & to respect each and every forumite. Many great people on these forums eh learn a bit from them.
 
SaMX said:
how about to quiet down the doubters you tell us what you were using the subcom for? I can understand people saying something if you were waving it around like a madman, but of course you weren't doing that.

also, I guess I do carry two knives, because I always carry a little gerber multi tool. The knife on it is pretty crappy so I never use it.
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Subcom was used for opeining boxes. I did realize that i couldn't use the trident for every day minimal tasks, because it is a bigger knife. Therefore i mainly use the subcom now.

I would use the warehouse knives, but due to them not having clips or sheath & also being big and bulky I'm not to happy with them. I have actually lost two of them as well. I'd rather use my own knife which i know will never get misplaced.

take care
aj
 
hardheart said:
I guess his CLB fixed blade is the fixed subcom. If so, that's 5 1/2" overall. If he had an MPT (dunno if available actually), that's 6.8" overall.
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yes it is the fixed blade and quite small for my hands, but only used for food everyday.

take care
aj
 
This thread seems to have become more of an attack than a discussion, but I think most of you have valid points in my opinion.

Now I must come out of the closet!!... I dont carry any knives. I love knives and could spend hours holding, polishing and sharpening, but in an urban corporate environment it doesnt make practical sense to carry one. Maybe its about where I live too, but having to always wonder about if security is going to not let you into a building because of whats in your pocket.. I think why bother? Frankly, I have two pockets, one wallet, one cellphone: If I carry a knife it would have to share a pocket with my cellphone... Im not keen on metal edges of a knife guaging chunks out of my not-so-cheap cellphone. Thanks to modern technology, all the plastic I have to carry in my wallet leaves little room for a knife.

So when out and about in nature, the SAK takes the place of the cellphone.
 
No one has asked the basic question here. Why does anyone in our society have to justify to anyone else why they "need" anything, just as long as it is legal? Someone asking a rude question or making a crude, ignorant comment in no way imposes upon me an obligation to explain myself to them.
 
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