Has this knife been repaired?

confucius37

confucius37

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I recently picked up this Schrade 899 stockman on the auction site. Looks pretty good in pictures and the description just said that the spey blade had some play...turns out that was a bit of an understatement. It looks like the spring on the secondary blades is the wrong thickness (it is the same thickness as the main blade). The spring doesn't even feel matched to the blades, there is no tension on the spring when the spey blade is in the open position, this means the blade can literally move around just by shaking the knife by the handle (not even touching the blade). The punch blade does not close on its own, it has to be pushed closed.

What confuses me is that I cannot see any evidence of repair just looking at the main pin, I would expect to see some evidence that it has been repinned, but the bone covers are in excellent condition with no cracks or chips.

Does anyone have any ideas of what happened here, missing some catch bits, just the wrong spring used at time of manufacture? Anyone have any suggestions about repairing it or should I just leave it be?

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It looks like the spey blade is not original to that knife from the mismatch of where it meets the backspring.--KV
 
kvaughn said:
It looks like the spey blade is not original to that knife from the mismatch of where it meets the backspring.--KV
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I think the blade is original, the punch has the same exact issue as the spey blade. My first thought was that the spring was replaced, but I see no evidence of repair looking at the main pin, there is no damage at all on the bone near the pin and the springs and blades all have near identical amounts of wear/patina/pitting.
 
Looking at the bolsters they looked as if they were polished, this may be a sign of taking the knife apart and hiding it afterwards. Also you can spot one of the pins through the bolsters this is another indication. No one can know for sure, but you can not expect from a Schrade Walden premium stock knife to be in such worse F&F, so in my opinion, yes this knife was played with.
Mike
 
It looks like someone disassembled several knives and assembled that one from mixed parts. If Schrade had let that out of the factory back then, they'd have gone out of business in the 70's.
 
akadave2 said:
The kick on the Cali Clip has been peened a bunch so it doesnt hit as well.
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I agree. The kick on the clip looks like some of the kicks that I peened myself after over filing them. The bolsters look awfully shiny for a knife that old. I'm betting it's a bit of a frankenknife. Sorry. But the upside is that I'm far from an expert.
 
mike Berkovitch said:
Looking at the bolsters they looked as if they were polished, this may be a sign of taking the knife apart and hiding it afterwards. Also you can spot one of the pins through the bolsters this is another indication. No one can know for sure, but you can not expect from a Schrade Walden premium stock knife to be in such worse F&F, so in my opinion, yes this knife was played with.
Mike
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I agree with Mike.

I think someone worked around a little on that knife. Maybe someone tried his/her skills in knifemaking. Trying to put some parts of different knives together. As far as I can see from the handful of american Schrade Knives and the lots of pics I´ve seen from them here on BFC it´s first one the spey blade has so much space at the liners and doesn´t even get kept by the spring.

Strange and interessting at the same time...
 
Thanks for the replies. It is indeed an interesting knife as the rest of the knife is in really excellent condition. The bone covers are very nice, blades look used but nearly full. If the spring was the right size then this knife would be simply fantastic.

Any thoughts on whether I should repair it or just use it as is?
 
I would use it as-is...as an object lesson or a paperweight. I'm pretty tolerant of blade play, and that is way beyond what I would put up with in a user.
 
I believe it could be fixed, or maybe could be fixed by a proper cutler. I'm pretty sure there are several on the forum here that could do it. At what cost, I couldn't guess. I don't think I'd bother.

Ed J
 
If it were mine I would try to convert it into a single blade knife very carefully to prevent breaking the nice scales. I really like the very low clip blade. Looks like a muskrat california clip. Half muskrat that is.....
Nathan
 
After thinking on it for a bit, I think I will just leave it as is. I've been searching for a knife like this for a long time now (low riding muskrat clip, sunken joints, super slim), it's the only stockman style I would carry. I thought i hit the jackpot with this one. It's sucks that it's not quite right, but I think I'll leave it be and save my money for another day. I'd really hate for the bone to get damaged so I'll just hope that I'll be able to catch another one someday.

I will still use the knife, I'll just have to be extra careful using the Spey blade :)
 
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