Howdy,help me out if you can?I own a LG Sebenza.To my understanding I have read that these are production knives but even if chris reeve is not grinding them by hand isnt someone else making them by hand?so does that make them custom under mr reeves supervision?what makes them production and why are they 300 bucks if they are production? dont get me wrong they are great knives I trust my life to this knife!I am just a little confused? help please!!
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Yes the blades are handground. The lines between a "custom" knife and exactly when it turns into a "production" knife is rather blurry. Usually, a knife is deemed "production" when a lot of people are making the knife. A knife is usually considered custom when only one person makes the knife. Chris Reeve knives are made by about 7 people in a small shop. Certain parts of the knives are made by CNC machinery. You have limited options that you can get with your Chris Reeve knives (for example, you cannot ask for a sebenza with no clip cut out.) So in these senses, the knives are production. Usually when people think of a production knife, they think of lower quality. This is where CRK is different, CRK's quality is right up there with most custom knife makers in it's price range and then some. And in many cases surpasses them. What makes them 300 bucks if they're production? What did you lose by them being production? Sebenza's quality are better today with the CNC machinery then they were 10 years ago when they were handmade.
-Johnny
Yes the blades are handground. The lines between a "custom" knife and exactly when it turns into a "production" knife is rather blurry. Usually, a knife is deemed "production" when a lot of people are making the knife. A knife is usually considered custom when only one person makes the knife. Chris Reeve knives are made by about 7 people in a small shop. Certain parts of the knives are made by CNC machinery. You have limited options that you can get with your Chris Reeve knives (for example, you cannot ask for a sebenza with no clip cut out.) So in these senses, the knives are production. Usually when people think of a production knife, they think of lower quality. This is where CRK is different, CRK's quality is right up there with most custom knife makers in it's price range and then some. And in many cases surpasses them. What makes them 300 bucks if they're production? What did you lose by them being production? Sebenza's quality are better today with the CNC machinery then they were 10 years ago when they were handmade.
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Meanings of words like "custom" and "production" shift all over the place in the knife trade. In many if not most sorts of goods, "custom" means it's made to the customer's specifications, at least within the limits of the party or parties doing the making. A custom suit or shirt, for example, is made in the style selected by the customer and of the materials selected by the customer and to the dimensions of that customer's anatomy, but the cutting and sewing may be done in some sweatshop somewhere you don't want to think to hard about.
You can get a custom knife, in this sense, from a factory, like Buck, which can sell you, directly over the Net, a Buck 110 in (by my quick calculation) your choice of 2,880 variations, built to order, starting at $65 for the same basic Buck Knife that any retailer can get you at a discount, to $260 in damascus and mother of pearl. It will be a factory knife finished to a good "first-world" factory standard, and it will be the way you like it. As long as you didn't want a geo-tanto or a drop-point, that is.
Or you can get a knife made by one person working with hand tool and/or machinery that fits in a residential garage, with fit and finish ranging from much finer than a Buck to maybe a quite a bit rougher (with prices that may or may not be proportional), that is made entirely to the maker's vision and offered for sale to whatever paying customer shares that vision, and it's called "custom" in the language of "knife people," though the customer had no input in the creative process.
So "custom," depending on who's talking and about what, can mean "made to order" or "made by one person," or "made to a higher standard than a normal factory can match," or "made as one of a kind," or some combination of the above.
In the case of Chris Reeve knives, there's a master craftsman in charge of a small team who make knives to a very high standard of performance and precision and obsessive attention to detail and first-rate customer service. And there's also a first-class artist at work.
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You can get a custom knife, in this sense, from a factory, like Buck, which can sell you, directly over the Net, a Buck 110 in (by my quick calculation) your choice of 2,880 variations, built to order, starting at $65 for the same basic Buck Knife that any retailer can get you at a discount, to $260 in damascus and mother of pearl. It will be a factory knife finished to a good "first-world" factory standard, and it will be the way you like it. As long as you didn't want a geo-tanto or a drop-point, that is.
Or you can get a knife made by one person working with hand tool and/or machinery that fits in a residential garage, with fit and finish ranging from much finer than a Buck to maybe a quite a bit rougher (with prices that may or may not be proportional), that is made entirely to the maker's vision and offered for sale to whatever paying customer shares that vision, and it's called "custom" in the language of "knife people," though the customer had no input in the creative process.
So "custom," depending on who's talking and about what, can mean "made to order" or "made by one person," or "made to a higher standard than a normal factory can match," or "made as one of a kind," or some combination of the above.
In the case of Chris Reeve knives, there's a master craftsman in charge of a small team who make knives to a very high standard of performance and precision and obsessive attention to detail and first-rate customer service. And there's also a first-class artist at work.
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- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
AKTI Member # SA00001
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Visit the CRK Official FAQ to get the company's position on the issue.
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James Segura
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The question is; do you like the knife?
If you want an investment, buy stocks.
Many of my knives are supposed to be worth more than I paid a few years ago.
I don`t intend to sell any, but they are used, so the list is deciving.
I have a Randall #1 from the `60`s.
It looks just like todays #1.
This one isn`t even beat up.
For some reason it is supposed to be worth more;why?
Only the dealers profit on knives.
If you want an investment, buy stocks.
Many of my knives are supposed to be worth more than I paid a few years ago.
I don`t intend to sell any, but they are used, so the list is deciving.
I have a Randall #1 from the `60`s.
It looks just like todays #1.
This one isn`t even beat up.
For some reason it is supposed to be worth more;why?
Only the dealers profit on knives.