Having a 112 or a 110 Buck knife rebladed?

claymoore

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I know i can call Buck. So save it if that's all you have to bring to the table;). But has anybody had a 112 (not sure if the make s30v for it) or a 110 have a new s30v blade installed . In other words can i send a older buck to Idaho with 440hc and have it upgraded with s30v. Is it worth it? One last question "about" how much does it cost and should i just buy a custom for around a $100.00 instead. Thanks for your time and Have a great weekend.
 
They will only install a 420hc blade, if you want an S30V blade, you will need to order a Custom Shop 110...
A 112 is not available in the Custom Shop,
 
Buck doesn't do re-blades any more, so save it. Plus, they never used 440hc steel. They currently use 420HC steel. You'll have to purchase one from the custom shop instead or get a 110 thru the club that was made with a S30V blade. There have been some Special Edition runs with that steel offered thru Cabela's and Bass Pro. DM
 
Buck doesn't do re-blades any more, so save it. Plus, they never used 440hc steel. They currently use 420HC steel. You'll have to purchase one from the custom shop instead or get a 110 thru the club that was made with a S30V blade. There have been some Special Edition runs with that steel offered thru Cabela's and Bass Pro. DM

Buck will re-blade a knife with a worn or broken blade, in 420hc, last one I had done they charged 10$, and gave the knife a "spa treatment" and covered shipping back to me...an awsome deal if you ask me...
They Do Not do upgrade blade replacements at all...
Also, if you are a BCCI member there are some Heritage Special 112's still available, they are S30V bladed and have Micarta scales...a very nice 112 for the money...it's only 25$ a year to join the BCCI, so this might be a good time for you to give it a try for a year, it is money very well spent for the info available and other benefits...
 
Thanks for the quick answers gentleman, i kind thought that. It's about time to order this years custom 110 for Christmas( my wife buys it for me, you know how that goes. And your exactly right David i did mean 420hc, thanks . I'm going for the cherrywood (the red one) this year. What do you think looks better nickel or brass bolsters? One more question do you guys like the custom handles with pin or without.
Thanks for your time. I do value the opinions of you guys.
Clay
 
Is it worth it?


The issue of "worth" is an interesting one to me. I should say from the outset that this is highly personal territory and that you should pursue which ever course gives you the most satisfaction.

The best book on "quality" and the making of things that I've ever read is Pirsig's "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". Crudely summarizing, quality is that which produces peace of mind for the user. Quality is as much about us... who we are and our hopes, dreams and expectations for the thing as it is about the thing itself. Quality might be an aging Honda that needs to be maintained, or a new BMW that is only serviced by the dealer. Depends on the owner and what produces the most peace of mind for them.

Over the years I've done a lot things that demand a lot from equipment and I've had the good fortune to take some of those pursuits quite far. I group equipment of all kinds into 3 main groups: junk, competent, and premium.

Junk is almost always to be avoided. It has the appearance of being a thing, but it fails under normal use. A bike shop in Burlington, VT used to host a "Huffy Throw" contest in which mechanics would throw a Huffy as far as they could, earning points for the number of parts that would fall off. Huffy bikes were junk.

Competent stuff works. I have a North Face backpack that I purchased in 1984. I've rebuilt the suspension on it but it still carries a load well. I've used it multiple times a year for nearly 30 years. It's competent.

Premium stuff is the best you can buy. It almost always performance better. Not always. Almost always. And the effect of diminishing returns kicks in. The difference between junk and competent stuff is huge but the difference between competent stuff and premium stuff is less.

I find Buck's 420HC to be competent. Ditto for carbon steel. I would imagine that most people consider S30V to be a premium steel. There's a good discussion about the technical differences between the two in the Steel FAQ (sticky in the Maintenance Sub-Forum) by Joe Talamadge. But, I suspect the technical details are less important than the basic distinction between competent steel and premium steel.

As a rule, I prefer competent equipment over premium equipment. I learned as a pro ski instructor that I ski better when I ski without worry about destroying skis (hitting rocks in thin snow wrecks them). The saying is, "All skis are rock skis". When I owned a pick up, it was a Ford, not a Lincoln. I'm more at peace with a pickup that can be used and scratched.d I prefer to own my truck, and not be owned by it.

I view knives in a similar way. When I plunge a blade into something nasty, I want to be confident that it is up to the task (I don't want junk) but I don't want to cringe when (not if) I damage it (I don't want premium stuff in general). I can maintain my 420HC blades easily, I don't cry if they get bunged up and I know they can be replaced. But, that's just me and how I have peace of mind. Different people will see it very different.

I think the question is, which gives you the most peace of mind? Having something that is competent and replaceable or having something that is among the best that money can buy? We're talking knives here, not cars, so it's not like premium costs are likely to bankrupt you. The issue is, which will make you happier?

Hope something here helps.
 
Thanks for the quick answers gentleman, i kind thought that. It's about time to order this years custom 110 for Christmas( my wife buys it for me, you know how that goes. And your exactly right David i did mean 420hc, thanks . I'm going for the cherrywood (the red one) this year. What do you think looks better nickel or brass bolsters? One more question do you guys like the custom handles with pin or without.
Thanks for your time. I do value the opinions of you guys.
Clay

Sometimes it's best to just see them side by side so you can make a decision. Here's two from the custom shop in Cherrywood. The top one has nickel silver bolsters with no handle pins and the bottom has brass with pins. My personal preference is nickel silver with pins, but that's just what I like.

As for the steel type, since there's not much extra cost involved ($13) in getting the S30V, I'd suggest that you go ahead and get it. It could save you some buyers remorse down the road.;) Not that you'd be unhappy with the 420HC, but you may think later, "Wow, I wish I'd got the premium steel when I had the chance".

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Another comparison. Oak, finger grips, nickel silver with and without pins. I think the pins just add something to the overall look.

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Pinnah,
Thanks for taking the time to answer. I see exactly where you are coming from and agree. Life has been good to me (All the Glory goes to God)and my family so i don't want to sound arrogant( i still save up thought) we are happy, 1 through collage, 1 to go. Better than me. I love to read other peoples opinions because it make me think. I love my Bucks and had one that can go to the spa so i was wondering if i could upgrade the blade while it was there. Thanks again Pinnah you are one of the good old honest ones. Amen
Clay
 
Nice photos Plumber. Here are some 112 and 110 non-custom, club offerings with S30V steel. Hope we 'brought enough to the table for you'... DM
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Plumberdv you are awesome. Just what i was thinking about , but i didn't have any comparisons. Thank you for taking the time ( i know time is valuable these days) to put up the blades. I happen to agree now , (won't know in a couple of months),
that i like the pins also. Tell ya what that Oak is my next one (From Santa, i better start working on my letter soon, lol) He probably like Buck's anyway, i just have a feeling. Well have a safe and great weekend all. Thanks again. Plumb you made my day . Pinnah also.`
Clay
 
Plumberdv you are awesome. Just what i was thinking about , but i didn't have any comparisons. Thank you for taking the time ( i know time is valuable these days) to put up the blades. I happen to agree now , (won't know in a couple of months),
that i like the pins also. Tell ya what that Oak is my next one (From Santa, i better start working on my letter soon, lol) He probably like Buck's anyway, i just have a feeling. Well have a safe and great weekend all. Thanks again. Plumb you made my day . Pinnah also.`
Clay
 
Clay, we have the same Teacher. A pastor friend of mine pointed out that the Eucharist is not grapes and wheat. It is wine and bread, implying a role and blessing on human labor. He would also remind us that the Teacher didn't make merely compentent wine for the wedding. He made premium wine. When done well, made things mimick creation, the ultimate premium thing. I own a few premium things and occasionally strive to make them.

Plumberdv, I agree. I prefer rivets.

David Martin, thanks for posting the pictures of the drop point knives. I would dearly love to see the drop point blade as an option for the custom 110s.
 
I don't think theres much chance for that. They are rarely offered and when they are its in limited quantaties that are bought up quick. Buck has offered this to the collectors in 2004 both the 110 and 112 and again
in 2011. The first with stag handles and S30V blades and now paperstone and S30V blades. You'd be lucky to find one on the auction site. DM
 
Here you go for a run down of the 110 drop points to look for.
The top one is the 2004 offering with Amboya Burl slabs done by a fellow collector, second one I made from a model V52 Selector Skinner blade in a early finger groove frame with Macassar ebony slabs, 3rd is the 2011 Paperstone offering, the 4th is one I made for my wife from another V52 Skinner blade in a Bucklite handle with a thumb stud and the 5th is the Drop point offer with the V52 Selector. They had no nail nicks except for the last one. DM
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Plumberdv you are awesome. Just what i was thinking about , but i didn't have any comparisons. Thank you for taking the time ( i know time is valuable these days) to put up the blades. I happen to agree now , (won't know in a couple of months),
that i like the pins also. Tell ya what that Oak is my next one (From Santa, i better start working on my letter soon, lol) He probably like Buck's anyway, i just have a feeling. Well have a safe and great weekend all. Thanks again. Plumb you made my day . Pinnah also.`
Clay

No problem. My time is all my own now and isn't really worth much. :) In case you didn't notice, I only have the one oak handled custom with pins/rivets. I PhotoShopped them out for the second picture so you could see the difference.;)
 
I don't think theres much chance for that. They are rarely offered and when they are its in limited quantaties that are bought up quick. Buck has offered this to the collectors in 2004 both the 110 and 112 and again
in 2011. The first with stag handles and S30V blades and now paperstone and S30V blades. You'd be lucky to find one on the auction site. DM

Nod. Unmet demand, I would say.

Don't I also recall seeing a drop point 110 with a commemerative blade etch? Alaskan State Trooper, perhaps.

I dream a lot. That could explain it.
 
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