Having fun in the bottoms

bindlestitch

bindlestitch

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Yo, guys. I went messing around in the river bottoms the other day and did a little video on it.
Hope you like it.
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Thanks for looking.
Iz
 
Great video Iz! Do you think having some char cloth would have made that parabolic lens work?

Sorry to hear of your friction fire funk, it happens to the best of us.. Well not me :p
 
Great stuff Iz, I like the tip for making smaller tinder by knocking the knife in the wood and then twisting !

Is that a Dogwood you were using ? I noticed that you strike the pommel end quite a bit, have ya thought of maybe having the tang extend very slightly beyond the scales ?
 
Nice video Iz, could you maybe have given that tinder a little more oxygen when it was smoking and gotten the coal to grow?

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Excellent vid. Thanks for sharing it. I've been playing with friction a little more and more as my hand will allow. Been making Fig 4's with RR and others in the "Owning the Skills" thread has been quite taxing on me. Any knife work in general is a slow process now, so I feel you on the self doubt. Don't get down on yourself, the friction fire gods will smile upon you again, and soon, I suspect. Moose
 
tonym said:
Great video Iz! Do you think having some char cloth would have made that parabolic lens work?

Sorry to hear of your friction fire funk, it happens to the best of us.. Well not me :p
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Tony,
I think it would have been a big plus. The light wasn't intense enough to catch the cedar bark real well. It got to smoking but I couldn't sustain the heat.
Oh look out, your turn is coming with the bow drill. I'm gonna talk Bush bum into watering down your set behind your back.:D

pitdog said:
Great stuff Iz, I like the tip for making smaller tinder by knocking the knife in the wood and then twisting !

Is that a Dogwood you were using ? I noticed that you strike the pommel end quite a bit, have ya thought of maybe having the tang extend very slightly beyond the scales ?
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Thanks, man.
Yeah that was the dogwood. The osage pommel has taken a pretty good beating. My gasconade has suffered the same fate, the laminated micarta is starting to split.
So I've decided my new design should have a tougher pommel and that's what I'm trying to incorporate with the new challenge knife. If I ever get my kiln fixed I'll get the prototype finished and do a vid on the testing.

mistwalker said:
Nice video Iz, could you maybe have given that tinder a little more oxygen when it was smoking and gotten the coal to grow?

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I think there just wasn't enough heat build up to get the coarser tinder to go.
With some char cloth or jute twine or a more prepped cedar bark it probably would have worked. I was lazy.:o

moosez45 said:
Excellent vid. Thanks for sharing it. I've been playing with friction a little more and more as my hand will allow. Been making Fig 4's with RR and others in the "Owning the Skills" thread has been quite taxing on me. Any knife work in general is a slow process now, so I feel you on the self doubt. Don't get down on yourself, the friction fire gods will smile upon you again, and soon, I suspect. Moose
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Thanks, Moose. I really appreciate the encouragement, brother.
Iz
 
bindlestitch said:
Tony,
Oh look out, your turn is coming with the bow drill. I'm gonna talk Bush bum into watering down your set behind your back.:D

Iz
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It's Rescue Riley not Bushbum this side of the fence;)

Him and I are heading out tomorrow and it has been doing nothing but raining today and it looks like it will rain all tomorrow morning as well, so you may get your wish. I'll report back tomorrow night and let you know if the funk has got to me or not.:thumbup:

How about a wager. If I get a coal on my first attempt, you send me that Gasconade, if I don't, I'll send you one of my nice Custom Scandi knives???

;):cool:
 
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Just learned how to bow drill this weekend, and was constantly untying and tying the stupid knot on the bow to tighten it up. The hole in it so you can just pull tight seems like such a simple yet genius way to make this easier. Thanks for the tip! I still havent gotten an ember with the bow drill but with tips like these I will someday soon!
 
tonym said:
It's Rescue Riley not Bushbum this side of the fence;)

Him and I are heading out tomorrow and it has been doing nothing but raining today and it looks like it will rain all tomorrow morning as well, so you may get your wish. I'll report back tomorrow night and let you know if the funk has got to me or not.:thumbup:

How about a wager. If I get a coal on my first attempt, you send me that Gasconade, if I don't, I'll send you one of my nice Custom Scandi knives???

;):cool:
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I loose all the way around on that deal!!:eek:;)

Hope you and RESCUE RILEY ;) have a good time. Wish I could travel along with you guys.
Iz


Thanks for the kind words, everybody. I appreciate it. This weekend I'm gonna try and get back in the saddle and make up a bd set and knock out a fire. Wish me luck.
Iz
 
bindlestitch said:
I loose all the way around on that deal!!:eek:;)

Hope you and RESCUE RILEY ;) have a good time. Wish I could travel along with you guys.
Iz



Iz
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You could of had a sweet Scandi if you took that bet bro! But we wouldn't want you to get too use to cutting wood with ease now wood we:p

I couldn't locate any good dry dead wood to use. So I tried a two stick method with white pine and a regular bow drill method with Red Oak.
Both got me Big failures. We did learn that carving a spindle with out of Red Oak is no easy task. That is some nasty hard and grainy stuff.
 
tonym said:
You could of had a sweet Scandi if you took that bet bro! But we wouldn't want you to get too use to cutting wood with ease now wood we:p

I couldn't locate any good dry dead wood to use. So I tried a two stick method with white pine and a regular bow drill method with Red Oak.
Both got me Big failures. We did learn that carving a spindle with out of Red Oak is no easy task. That is some nasty hard and grainy stuff.
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Yeah, red oak suck for splitting and carving. The only thing I know of that is worse is red elm.:barf: Like splitting steel cable.
My question is: What in the world was going on in your crazy mind that made you want to try a red oak set?:eek::D;)
Major kudos for that.........I think. heh.
Iz
 
bindlestitch said:
My question is: What in the world was going on in your crazy mind that made you want to try a red oak set?:eek::D;)

Iz
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Well mostly I was too lazy to find anything else. However on the way out we spotted a standing dead Red Cedar tree that we must have walked right by with out noticing on the way in:o However, it was about 2 feet in diameter and no brances big enough in reach to use. So I doubt I would have taken that tree down to practice anyway.

An interesting thing with the Red Oak. We got the right powder, and I am am sure if I had the strength to apply more donward pressure and stamina to drill for a straight 2-3 minutes I would have got that damn coal. However, I do not and I ain't trying it again...
 
:Dlol....Red Oak is gnarly stuff....

I need to get out and make a set.....might do that today.

How does red cedar work for a set?

I found some dead buckeye wood last time I was out. Seemed like it would make a good set....
 
j williams said:
:Dlol....Red Oak is gnarly stuff....

I need to get out and make a set.....might do that today.

How does red cedar work for a set?

I found some dead buckeye wood last time I was out. Seemed like it would make a good set....
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Red Cedar will work, not nearly as good as white cedar though. I never tried Buckeye. But if it meets all requirements it should do fine. Try it and lete us know big boy:thumbup:
 
tonym said:
Well mostly I was too lazy to find anything else. However on the way out we spotted a standing dead Red Cedar tree that we must have walked right by with out noticing on the way in:o However, it was about 2 feet in diameter and no brances big enough in reach to use. So I doubt I would have taken that tree down to practice anyway.

An interesting thing with the Red Oak. We got the right powder, and I am am sure if I had the strength to apply more donward pressure and stamina to drill for a straight 2-3 minutes I would have got that damn coal. However, I do not and I ain't trying it again...
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Oh yeah, I know that condition well. Most of my failed attempts at anything is because of my really large lazy streak.:D:(
Iz
 
bindlestitch said:
Well, I'm back in the saddle again! And it feels good.:thumbup:

Iz
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I knew it wouldn't take you long. I got a big smile on my face right now. :D. That knife looked like it worked out pretty good too. Congrats, brother, good job. Moose
 
Nice vids Ive kind of left the bow/drill for a bit will have to get back to them Thanks for the inspiration
Lots of hammering on them blades and they hold up well
Dan'l
 
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