Having some troubled times...maybe someone has suggestions

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My wife's mother recently found out she has breast cancer that has spread to her spine, liver, lungs, and lymph nodes. She doesn't have much time and I don't expect anyone to be able to help someone face and deal with that. But it has caused some other problems that I'm hoping someone might have a suggestion as to what we can do.

She had insurance that was abruptly canceled without warning and without an opportunity to purchase COBRA insurance, which to the best of my knowledge, is illegal. The problem is, she needs treatment and surgery now and a lawsuit will likely take too long. I have spent enough time on the phone that I think I have found out a way to get a COBRA like insurance for the short term and found out about it just in time. So we are waiting to hear about that. She also had AFLAC cancer insurance and I found out that while she had a premium deducted from her pay check, the employer hadn't paid the insurance company for the last 10 months. I have spent a lot of time on the phone and because she has pay stubs showing the deductions for the insurance I think they are going to honor her claim although it has been a few weeks and I haven't heard anything. Again, a lawsuit seems acceptable but it will likely take to long to provide any help to her mom, which is needed now.

The biggest problem is the car that she bought 5 months ago. She paid way to much for it and paid sticker price plus all the fees and got absolutely no discount. 5 months later the car is worth about 20K trade in while she owes 27K. The problem is my wife went and co-signed against my wishes on a new car that was so expensive. It would be one thing to keep paying while her mom is here and then let the car company take it back when she is gone and can't pay. However, my wife is now responsible once she is gone.

I was told that in certain circumstances where there is a major life change that happens in a timely manner, that you can get out of a purchase. I guess this isn't actually true based on what the car dealership told me? So basically if we sell it we will have to come up with at least 5k cash to pay off the car. If we wait a year the car will depreciate more and we will have to come up with probably double that in cash to pay it off. I am disabled and get a laughable amount every month. That doesn't bother me much because it is the insurance I also get and need to keep me alive. I had done the right thing and bought a personal policy before my medical problems started but it is just about run out so I rely on the Medicare I now get. My wife just started going back to school and is no longer working full time so we just don't have the money for all of this. We went to get her medicine for this month and it was almost $700. I just emptied my bank account to write a check for the COBRA insurance. $600 a month and you have to pay 2 months at a time.

On top of this her brother has offered to do nothing to help. And he just bought a brand new car for roughly the same price as the car we need to get rid of. Instead of helping out his mom and family he chose to get a little dorky car that was also too expensive when he could have helped everyone out and got his mom's brand new car. No, he doesn't have to do it. But he isn't helping at all when he should and his mom would get better treatment and potentially live longer. I digress, and that is not of importance.

I just really don't know what to do about the car. We want to get rid of it but just don't have the cash to pay off the loan. Does anyone know if there are any legal options when a major life event happens and someone can no longer pay for something? Unfortunately, we can't just let the bank take it without destroying my wife's already tainted credit that has been getting much better since we have been married.

This is much more info than needed, and there is more to it, I just thought I would lay out the basics of what is going on. If anyone has any suggestions or words of wisdom it would be greatly appreciated during this trying time. Thanks.
 
I wish I could offer some advice. Seems like a real tough situation, too bad she co-signed for the car. Maybe the car will get stolen.
 
You need an attorney. I know: you can't afford one. So call your state Bar Association and they will refer you to resources and to attorneys for your situation.
 
Actually, on the paycheck deduction and not paying the premiums, call the Wage and Hour Division of the Department of Labor. I THINK they can wade in on that.

Good luck, sorry to hear about it all happening at once.

Larry
Tinkerer
 
Hey,
I'm sorry to hear about your situation. I don't know what your MIL's financial status is but I would try to see if she could swing the 5K loan to get out of the car without a cosignor. If not I MIGHT be tempted to cosign for a 5K loan because dealing with the balance on that after she is gone will probably be better than dealing with the car. (as you said, it isn't gonna get cheaper to get out of the car. as long as she is alive and paying on the 5K note it is shrinking.) I doubt I need to ask but does she have any assets? Antiques that could be sold? I'd run her name through the unclaimed funds website for any state she ever lived in. (a couple years ago I checked all my family. found unclaimed funds for more than one, not much but every bit will help.)

I feel your pain. My son just turned eighteen and he seems to be getting on towards having his own life and it is now looking like we are going to get the unanticipated responsibility of helping my in-laws. Dealing with parent's/in-laws is hard. They don't like to give up control and when they make bad decisions it often hurts the people that are trying to help them.

My aunt gave me some good advice about trying to help the older generation. Do the best that you can do, but don't get hung up feeling guilty that you can't do more. She also counseled to not get tied to any of their bills or obligations. (I know, hindsight and all that) Also It usually ends up being only one child, no matter how big the family is, that does the majority of the caretaking. Your wife's a great person, and your lucky to have her. (my grandmother that needs 24-7 supervision, is soley cared for by my aunt, even though my mother and uncle live in the same town. My mother might see her mom twice a month... and does little if any to help her sister.)

You're not alone, Good luck. It seems most resources on the web want to tell how to prevent problems rather than deal with them when it comes to aging parents. Prayers sent.

Grizz
 
Thanks for the advise so far.

My mother in law is only 52 so at least she isn't older and more senile. But its sad she has to face this so young, but I was 24 when I was told I would probably die so I'm a little immune to it. She just hasn't ever done much planning for the future and the little money she had has gone to bills. She doesn't have much and actually lives in my wife's house that she took over when my wife moved out. She is a borderline hoarder and what she has is mostly junk. If we wanted to sell my wife's house it will have to be gutted and a lot of stuff replaced to get anything for it because she trashed the place. I don't know why hoarders all seem to have animals but she did to and it just magnified the problem.

Anyways, I think the medical stuff will get worked out eventually, but the car, monthly insurance premium, and mortgage my MIL used to pay are going to be the hardest to pay for. It's what we are responsible for at least. My wife works and I basically take care of the rest. Just thinking about it is tiring.
 
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