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Sebenza4ever

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Guys,
Hawk bills are nothing but box openers, they are worth nothing for self-defence and worth nothing as an everyday carry

Forget about Hannibal Lector. and gutting someone falling down

In the real world it’s only effective as a slashing tool.

How many cavemen would u meet using a tool to slash their victim dead?

Only a girl would slash.

Slashing is the ultimate defensive method.

A good defensive knife would have a belly and at least a symmetric point for forward and backward stabbing.





What are Hawkbills for?
 
Hawkbills.. like you said are of limited use in the real world. Is there any reason though why you think a slash cut is ineffective? I have witnesed two Knife Fights & it wasnt pretty. The slashes opened up terrible wounds in both participants before closing in for the fatal stab. :confused:
 
yes slashing works

but its not as agrressive as people think , because of the mean looking knives



Most mean lookiong knives dont work


Would u like to have a Hawkbill in war?
 
I agree about the Hawkbill. I guess I didnt make my previous post clear. The two fights I seen were A. fixed blade hunting style knives and B. large folders simular to the Buck 110 in blade shape. None of the fights included Hawkbills.
 
I'd go with a traditional japanese tanto for a knife fight. Tried and true, perfect "knife" for such a purpose. Or a small sword if you wish.
 
A few months ago a friend of mine let me borrow a training video that someone had put together for use with Hawkbills, specifically the Spyderco Civillian.

He based his presentation in part on the view that a Hawkbill was a great defensive weapon for your avg. Joe, because in the event of an attack, or intense fear, a lot of folks lose their fine motor skills, and unless your trained, you will pretty much have to rely on your gross motor skills, or natural reflexes to get you through the conflict.

He stated that the swiping or downward motion used with a Hawkbill would be easier to use instinctively than a normal knife.

He was obviously trained in a high degree of Martial arts, and he was extremely fluid with the numerous methods of disarming, or imobilizing an attacker via use of a Hawkbill.

He presented them in away that I had not considered, and made a very good argument for the ues of Hawkbills as a self defense weapon.

Personally, I would feel more comfortable with my Seb, but if the stuff hit the fan, whos to say I'd have enough witts about me to get a knife out and use it in a self defense sitation any way, Hawkbill or otherwise.

I pray I'll never have to find out.
 
If all of god's creatures do indeed have knives, it should be noted that many of them have hawkbill knives. Not just the beaks of hawks, but claws and fangs. Millions of years of evolution produced relatively few daggers. Maybe humans can make good use of straight blades, but claws are definitely not useless.
 
Claws are useful for animals because they need to
grip their pray and eat it.

In a fight, I don’t think you are planning on grapping your enemy with your claws so that they don’t get away.

Plus, I don’t think you would normally eat your opponent
 
Barrabas, can you tell us more about this video? Is it an "official" one, ore kinda hommade? Thanks!
 
A hawkbill makes a better stabber than a straight blade.

Hold your arm out, gripping a knife in your fist. A straight blade is angled upward. The point of the hawkbill is straight ahead, pointing at your target.

Next time, think before you pontificate.
 
Sebenza4ever,

Hawkbills are for utility/non-weapons use. They're for cutting ropes and roots and other fun wares from a distance. They help increase the safety of inherently unsafe work. Check out the Rescue Karamit sold at www.karambit.com. It's a blunt-nosed hawkbilled blade used to increase the safety of both the rescue person using the knife and any person against whom the knife may need to be ran.

One may argue that they turn slashes into stabs and make great defensive weapons because of that fact, and they'd be right, but it's a moot point as as brains, eyes, ears, feet, and guns also exist.

Also, hawkbilled knives help unite diverse cultures. Who here didn't get a little extra help reading and counting by watching Kerambit the Frog on Sesame Street?
 
Bon soi, Sebenza4ever.

Maybe you'll come back as another knife you don't own and continue entertaining us?
 
thombrogan said:
Also, hawkbilled knives help unite diverse cultures. Who here didn't get a little extra help reading and counting by watching Kerambit the Frog on Sesame Street?
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Don't quit your day job! :p :D
 
For defense or combat use: the hawkbill shape, when slashing, will tend to deepen or mantain the depth as the slash is performed. Were as the curved blade will actually tend to "get out" of the cut as it is slashed.

For cutting tasks: said above already.
 
robertmegar said:
For defense or combat use: the hawkbill shape, when slashing, will tend to deepen or mantain the depth as the slash is performed.
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Exactly. Where does the hawkbill ome from? Sickles and scythes, agricultural knives, designed to pull the stalks of grain together for the cut.

Recurved blades have much the same effect, which is why serrations on a recurved blade are extra effective.
 
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