Heat treating specs for vascoware

Darrel Ralph

Darrel Ralph

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I have looking for the heat treat specs on vascoware . I misplaced my paperwork on it.

HELP


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[This message has been edited by Darrel Ralph (edited 07-11-2000).]
 
Darrel: Heat Treat data as follows; Preheat......1550- 1600 ........Austinizing Temp....... 1850 to 2050. Quench.... Air. Tempering Temp...... 975 to 1200. Quenching from 1950, For a 60 R\C temper @1000 deg. F. For a 62 R\C temper Aprox 950 deg . F. They recamend Tempering, 2 + 2 + 2 hrs. per temper. Hope this helps. Paul.
 
Brian, btw, glad the blade arrived ok, sorry for the delay, you can buy CruWear at Texas Knifemakers Supply, pretty much the same as VascoWear, and yes, I have and can burn it for you. Beware, the stuff is terrible to grind!
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I like Cruwear, it holds an edge for a very, very long time but as I am sure that Tom can attest to, the stuff will rust if not properly cared for. When you grind it, don't get it too hot, it will work harden and it won't be fit to open a can of paint! Grind, then dip, grind then dip. Don't expect to get much of a mirror finish.

This is a cruwear blade I finished a couple of weeks ago. As Rob Simonich stated, Texas Knifemakers Supply has quite a bit of it.

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I don't know what happened to the picture quality.....


[This message has been edited by C L Wilkins (edited 07-12-2000).]
 
how much harder is it than bg-42? thanks for the information. rob, what rockwell hardness can you get it to? will it hold an edge longerthan 420v?

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Bg-42 grinds like butter till it's heat treated I love the stuff ,just can't seem to find it any where in .125 stock and the stuff that I did buy looked like it was drug behind a truck for a while .
vascowear, I've had that stuff rust while grinding it ,set it down answer the phone and when I pick it up again It's rusted.
 
i think i'll stick with bg-42. i like it becuase it isn't extremely hard to grind. i got mine from admiral, and even though not to many people like them it does look good. i thought i saw .125 on thier list, i might be wrong.
 
Mag
Every steel has a purpose.
420v is a good universal stainless.
It is tough to work before and after heat treat. Bg42 is like butter before and after in comparison..IMHO
Im used to the 420v I guess.
My quest is to test vasco and 3v . There both carbons so they will both rust.
So does ats34 bg 42 all of then at some point. Thre stain resistant no rust proof.
Some of my clients like carbons.


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[This message has been edited by Darrel Ralph (edited 07-13-2000).]
 
Darrel,
I would be very interested to see how your tests of 3v and Vascowear turn out. I really like Cruwear. According to the information on the Crucible Service website, 3v appears to be tougher. Ken Onion is right, the stuff will rust while looking at it. It just needs additional care. We have some of the same problems on the gulf coast that he may have in Hawaii. I look at it how I would treat any shotgun or other sporting arm. It you don't take care of it after use, shame on you. At least you know this going in.

I have not worked with 420V only 440V and I will attest that Cruwear, although it will work harden if you get it too hot, is easier to grind than 440V.

C Wilkins
 
i like bg-42 as a universal stainless for my knives. i use 440c for knives that are for display, even though you can still use them, and they will hold an edge long. i use it becuase it is very stain resistant. i would like to start using 440v becuase i heard it holds an edge very long, but it's pretty expensive. does 3v cost alot also?
 
Kevin
The 3v rusts to.
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Ill let ya know when there done.. The 3v is tested it came out ok in most testing. I was just interested to see the difference in the two..I have a knife being tested this weekend
on the 3v


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