Hello, New to board and needing some assistance

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Hello,

Obviously I'm new to the board, but am not completely new to knives. I am new to the really high end knives though. Previously I didn't know there was anything better than a Ka-bar etc. Currently I own several older military issued knives, Ka-bars, and others while I have several newer CRKT folders and fixed blades a Ka-bar Impact series D2 Drop Point, and some other knives. I bassically use the knices for camping and hiking, and to this day I have had no problems with any of the CRKT's or Ka-bars that I've owned. I don't consider my knife use really intense. I havn't had many opportunities to use the new Ka-bar D2 Impact, but now I'd like a new smaller fixed blade knife. I'd like to spend under $100. I'm just not sure what brand to go with or type to go with. Please keep in mind its for camping and nothing too serious. Also, if you could offer you opinion on how much this Ka-bar can take I'd be greatful. Sorry for the long post and thank you for the information.

Nick
 
Welcome to the Forums, Nick!:)

My suggestion will be a bit over $100, but if you hang around here for a while, you'll probably hear this advice: A Bob Dozier. The K-6, K-9 or K-1 would seem to fit your needs. You can browze these at www.dozierknives.com
Bob uses D-2 exclusively and he does a great job with it.

Good luck with your selection.
 
If it's a small camp knife you're after, and one that won't break your wallet, I'd look closely at Marbles. They are traditional fixed blades with an awesome carbon steel and thin convex grind. I find that they make excellent hiking and camping knives. The convex grind is superb for any woodwork you’d need to do around camp, and also ideal for food prep.

Here’s a link to my review of the Marbles Fieldcraft. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=199203
 
What about SPYDERCO Bill Moran Featherweight? Two blade styles to choose, nice Concealex sheath with multi-carry option, flat ground VG-10 blade (mmm, this is really excellent cutter) and it is equally real featherweight.
One of my very favorite camping-tactical-kitchen knives ;)

Or think about Fällkniven F1 if you do like stronger blade.
 
You just received probably the two best pieces of advice here, from two of the better advice givers. You will find solid support for all of Bob Dozier's work. I have one piece and another on the way. I suggest that if you need to scratch this itch in less than 4 months, order something of his from sites that already have some available. Examples would be AG Russell at www.agrussell.com Another choice would be Blade Art. I'll post back with that address.
Buzz brings up the option of Marbles. A very good choice to make. They will be less expensive and use 52100 carbon steel... which is an excellent steel. Their grind is very easy to maintain an edge on from what I hear. I do not have one (yet!) but am intrigued by their choices. Stick around and use the search engine function. There is a wealth of knowledge here, and some interesting folks and a goat or two also.
Happy Hunting, Mongo
 
As usual Serge has nailed it! Spyderco and Fallkniven are both excellent. They also both use VG10, the knife steel of the gods.
 
Welcome to the forums Nick,
Alot of good suggestions there. With my Spyderco Moran drop point and a good multitool or Swiss Army knife (a wood saw is a must), I feel ready for most any hiking or camping trip.
 
Welcome, Nick! I think your definition of "light use" is heavier than a lot of people here!

Marbles and Fallkniven are great suggestions. There are also tons of custom fixed blades close to you price range that'll serve you well. Depending on the size you're looking for, George Tichbourne, John Greco, Gary Bradburn, and Newt Livesay make some very affordable knives fir for the outdoors.

Zero
 
I am going to add another vote fro a Dozier. The Straight Personal. This knife will be a bit above the $100.00 level, but not so's you'd notice. I really like the look of this knife and will likely get one in the next little while myself. Forget about for the price, Dozier's are great knives period.
 
Everyone here has posted some great advice already. My only experience in this knife class is with the Spyderco Moran Drop Point. As mentioned above it has great steel and a great handle that is very comfortable. I think that it would be even better if it had a lanyard hole too. The sheath is very secure. I have handled, but not used, the Grohmann Camper and Boat models and they seem to be good choices based on price, handle ergonomics and their flat ground stainless steel blades (you can now get the Boat in flat ground too). The sheaths are leather, not as durable as kydex but they swing freely and are comfortable to wear.
 
Thanks for the info guys. I've been checking out your suggestions as they come. So far I like the Dozier straight professional. Keep the info coming. Thanks again,

Nick
 
APS,
I think that it would be even better if it had a lanyard hole too
Sure!
It is not full tang construction so probably it would be possible to drill a lanyard hole by yourself. Fiber reinforced nylon (FRN) what makes the handle basically is not a problem to drill through but I have no ideas how would behave rubber inlay. It’s not a problem to drill it through but in my experience with such materials it is a problem to get esthetical look of such hole.

<a href="http://www.sergium.izet.pl/images/knives/spyderco/perrin_02.jpg" target="_blank"><IMG align=right SRC="http://www.sergium.izet.pl/images/knives/spyderco/perrin_02_tn.jpg" border="2"></a>One idea more. New SPYDERCO Fred Perrin fixed blade has also flat ground VG-10 blade, slightly longer than Moran and with more aggressive tip. It is very light and handy, the handle provides great handling security and comfort, is equipped with lanyard hole.

Welcome to the Forums, APS!

Just edited to attach the image. Click it to open enlarged one in separate window.
 
I'm a big fan of the Fallkniven products too and recommend them every time they are appropriate. They will be more "stainless" than D2. They are all under $100. The Kabar Extreme knives are excellent, by the way. D2 has proven itself to be a rugged and reliable steel for outdoor fixed blade knives. Welcome to the board.
 
Well, I have a bias here, as I have owned a lot of knives, sold some of them off, but retain ownership of 8 Dozier's, 3 Scott Cook knives, and 2 Fallkniven's, among many others ... i.e. these are keepers. I've handled a couple of AG's knives I recommend (below) but don't own one (but would if I found on the used market).

Dozier's are elegantly simple in construction, and very solid using knives in-hand. Bob has refined his designs to be no-frills, and comfortable in use. They look simple, and are, and this after being refined to that point. Hope that makes sense. Dozier makes excellent, snappy kydex sheaths also.

www.dozierknives.com

I also like the Fallkniven F1 in a 4" drop point knife. VG-10 is more stainless than D2, holds an edge well, but at Rc59 from Fallkniven, VG-10 will not hold an edge quite as well as D2 ala Dozier at Rc60-61. But VG-10 is a good production knife steel from the Japanese again, and serves well and is good stuff. This F1 may be my most often recommended fixed blade knife in the 4" range because of the value it brings to bear at the price point of about $80 street I believe, and the no-nonsense design. It is a solidly built and ground knife and can take some moderately hard use.
http://www.fallkniven.com/a1f1/f1_en.htm

AG Russell has some very nice looking pieces in ATS-34 that I've always liked, straight Loveless designs (except for the Woodcraft e.g. below), that are simple and functional, and he knows ATS-34 needs to be run Rc60-61 also. They are pricier but should service well, starting around $155 for Cocobolo made in Japan, and going up into the upper $200 range. The Japanese made knives AG sells are very well made in the knife production capital of the world, Seki City, so if your new to the knife habit, don't let "made in Japan" be any kind of deterrent necessarily, definitely not here on these:

http://www.agrussell.com/agrussell/agdp4.html
http://www.agrussell.com/agrussell/ag200.html
http://www.agrussell.com/agrussell/gents.html

Here's the Woodcraft:
http://www.agrussell.com/agrussell/agwc3.html


If you can swing $180 to $220 though, take a look at Scott Cook's knives, the 3" and 3.6" Owyhee drop points. You can find pics on these forums with search engine. These come with a well executed pouch leather sheath with a fine finish, and Scott's knives are one of the best bargains going. His turnaround time is also excellent... perhaps 6-8 weeks still? Have him make one in CPM's new S30V steel at Rc60 and you'll have a really outstanding knife, hollow ground, excellent utility drop point blade. S30V provides notably better corrosion resistance than D2, somewhat better than ATS-34, significantly better toughness than both, and edge holding to rival if not surpass D2, and with a finer grain structure than either but D2 by a long shot.

Scott's web site is really in "place holder, under construction mode" still, but it gives contact info.
http://www.scottcookknives.com/

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Of those examples above, the F1 from Fallkniven is the only flat ground knife and the newer versions come with a convex final edge. This is arguably the more rugged way to build a knife for all around use, and the compromise is moderate but these will not be the "slicing machines" (e.g. for game preparation) that the hollow ground, thinly ground knives will be. You may find a convex edge to be trickier to resharpen if you aren't skilled here already. Use search engine to find tips on convex sharpening.

The Dozier's are deep hollow ground with an appropriately thin final edge and are great slicing knives and game cleaning/prep knives, and serve excellently for intelligent use of a field knife like this. Dozier's smaller knives are not the ones you want to beat through a log with another log, or whack around with. His bigger knives if done in A2 would be much better here.

AG's knives are hollow ground also, so the above comments to Dozier apply. They have a mirror finished ATS-34 blade, and this means they'll be easier to keep rust free outdoors.

The Dozier's require a bit more care, i.e. wipe off sap and blood/guts, wash off any citrus acids or other food acids when you are done using (well, true for any knife). You may be familiar with D2 already from KaBar. It's a worthwhile tradeoff for many people who appreciate Dozier's expert handling of D2 in the heat treat process.

Scott Cook is only producing 2 hunting knife designs now (he makes a dagger, and is prototyping a promising folder now), as he keeps his design count low to keep the prices down and his productivity up via using jigs and fixtures in his production. But they are both gems.

My bottom line:
Scott's 3.6" Large Owyhee is a great all around outdoors knife, and since he'll do S30V, my pick of the litter is Scott's knife... I'd say "save your pennies, skip the bolster, have him build in micarta or one of his standard woods, have him extend the handle material to the end of the tang so the metal tang-with-thong-hole isn't exposed (for comfort in use), and get a Large Owyhee in S30V for around $180". Paul Bos heat treats for Scott, so you are getting the best production heat treat in the business. With S30V at Rc60, it'll be years before you find a better all around blade for real outdoor use.
 
excellent post! Couldn't have said it better. Thanks for the heads up for Scott Cook Knives.
 
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