Help - crkt m16 14sf assembly

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Hi all,
I was cleaning my CRKT M21-142f and my m16-14sf when I came to a problem with assembling the m16. Take a look at the image, the liner lock is not fitting into place. It seems as though the pivot part of the blade is sticking out too far for the lack bar to fall into place. I had no issue w/ the m21, I am wondering if anyone has any experience w/ this knife and knows what I am doing wrong. If you need more pics than I can provide them, as far as I know, i've assembled it exactly as i took it apart. Something is not sitting in place correctly.
Thanks for looking (BTW..that pic is from a cell phone camera, crazy detail!!)
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I tried it w/ the blade closed, its a flaw w/ the knife, not me. I got it working but the liner lock does not engage very well. I had forgotten that when I first got it, it took some force flicking it open to get the liner lock to engage and the LAWK was hard as hell to to put in place. Over the years it got worked in and was not an issue. Now that I cleaned it and reassembled it, its back to the day I first got it, Not a very secure lock up and takes a bit if effort to engage the LAWKS.
I tried tapping the spine of the blade against a table to see if it stayed locked, it did. So the liner lock is working, it just does not look as solid as the M21 14sf
 
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Must be your knife.
I'm not particularly fond of M16 nor LAWKS but lock-up is solid and LAWKS(is incovenient) are easy to engage on my M16.
 
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Is that after you cleaned it, it looks like there's still crud in between the scale and liner, when dealing with the LAWKS everything needs to be clean sheets not much clearance when assembled so any debris could cause problems.

One other thing once you assemble it, before tightening all the screws, torque/tweak the blade in relation to the scales and liner, you have a little room to play and when it's where you want it tighten the screws down and you should be fine.

Also you mentioned having to flick it to get it smooth you may have damaged it doing that and once you took it apart it amplified the problem when you reassembled it.
 
T. Erdelyi said:
Is that after you cleaned it, it looks like there's still crud in between the scale and liner, when dealing with the LAWKS everything needs to be clean sheets not much clearance when assembled so any debris could cause problems.

One other thing once you assemble it, before tightening all the screws, torque/tweak the blade in relation to the scales and liner, you have a little room to play and when it's where you want it tighten the screws down and you should be fine.

Also you mentioned having to flick it to get it smooth you may have damaged it doing that and once you took it apart it amplified the problem when you reassembled it.
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I thought I cleaned it really well, despite the photo, I used a wire brush and gave the parts a good scrub.
When i bought it, years ago, the liner never sat as deep as my other CRKT knives...comparing directly to my M16 14D and M21, the liner is not as deep when deployed. It came like that. I never had to flip it that hard but using more wrist flick than I would any other flipper to ensure the liner fell into place. In time I could just open it normally. Ill try your suggestion and see if I cant get a better fit, for the time being its behaving just like it did before i cleaned it and works fine. I am just now hyper aware of the Liner lock and see it as a flaw where I never paid much attention before.

Thanks for the feedback guys..if you have any more suggestions I am happy to read them. At the moment I am thinking its a flaw w/ the knife however I can accept some user error as I its only my third time taking a knife apart w/ a lot of parts. I still have a lot to learn.
 
I've taken apart & reassembled a dozen CRKT's, including M21's and M16's. I ran into this on more than one of them. Some were an easy fix, others could be made serviceable, but never really had that "broken-in" feeling.

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~Chris
 
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