Help i.d.ing a stone and getting new ones

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dbreeze225

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PIC #1-LANSKY STANDARD KIT W/ GUIDES
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PIC #2- UNKNOWN STONE
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PIC# 3- UNKNOWN STONE


Hey guys i got a few questions the pics will help. picture 1 is the lansky standard kit with angle guides since i have the standard all it came with was a coarse 120 stone , medium 280 stone and fine 600 stone....they also make a extra coarse and a extra fine and also a sapphire stone (i think it is like extra extra fine). i also have a B.S. aluminum oxide stone i got at home depot with coarse on one side and fine on the other ( not the best of stones) lastly i have the stone in picture # 2 and #3 i have no idea what kind it is my father had given it to me a long time ago holding it in your had it almost feels like a block of metal but not quite it is a very fine stone when used with water it make a very light brown slurry. if any one can identify this stone by the pic and my description it would be GREATLY appreciated. so basically thats my set up (except sometimes using leather and a stroping compound to knock the bur off at the end of sharpening). i am looking to step up my game and dont know wich way to go obviously i could just get the fine stone and sapphire stone for the lansky kit but they are small stone and the angle guide is really only made for small knives not larger one and swords with them it will work but it is sooo tedious and time consuming. i really want to get a set of good bench size stones but i dont know what way to go i have looked around and there are so many sites with so many options....arkansas stones (wich dont come in grit size just hard or soft so i dont know how that works), diamond stones, ceramic stones, shapton stones (they have the clasic and some new glass stones idk what the difference is), Japanese water stones, nagura stones, ect i could sit here all day naming different stones but i have no idea what way to go i was leading toward the Japanese water stones because i have seen good reviews and there is no "oil" cleanup like other stones but good ones are very expensive. i dont want more cheap crappy stones but i also dont want to spend thousands of dollars on a set eithere has got to be some happy medium. also i dont know what grit or micron sizes to get for a good set and i dont know how many i would need for a good set i need one that is coarse enough to shape a real beat up knife but i also want fine enough to make knives and swords RAZOR sharp...i have also heard good things about the glass shapton but they are expensive to and arkansas stones i heard good things about but dont understand how they are graded by hard or soft and i think i heard transparent IDK?!?!?!? ANY help at all on ANY of theese issues either on new stones or if any one can idenify the unknown stone would be very appreciated thanks ahead of time hope some one can steer me in the right direction
-Dave
 
I can't touch the rest of your post at the moment, not enough tine to consider all you're asking.

The stone looks somewhat and sounds like it might be a Belgian Blue Coticule. A very well thought of stone, though I have never owned or used one.
 
heavy handed ---- thanks i am going to look up belian blue and see what i find....glad you answered i see you posting alot so assumeing you got good knowlage....i know i asked alot and like i said ANY help is apreciated dont need every fact about everything ill take your word for it so when ever you got time any sugestions would help ....hey i cant get my self in a worse position than know so anything i can learn helps thanks again for the thought on the stone deffinitly appreciate it
 
Arks are graded soft (sometimes also called Washita), hard, translucent from coarsest to finest. There is also black and surgical black. There's some debate over whether black or translucent stones are finer, but both are quite fine - I have a translucent that works great for finish honing my straight razor. As for all the rest of your questions, you need to use the site's search function or use Google to search bladeforums. Those questions are all easy to find answers for with some reading, but time consuming to answer - you'd be better off searching for the answers and you will get all sorts of good extra info while you look at your search results.
 
Here in my country, such natural stone has no name, except known as sharpening stone. Some are coarse, some dense & fine, some fine & muddy (creates much slurry). It is getting hard to find them in big city (mostly stocks China made Sic/Alox), but people in rural areas still make them.

Sorry, not much help, just try to say it might not get identified fully. Just use & enjoy it I guess.
 
ok so i was looking around on ebay and amazon to see if i could find anything a lil bit cheaper (everything i looked at is new in the packaging) so like i said i was kinda leaning to Japanese water water first i check ouw the company nawai (maybe spelt wrong) came to see there pritty expensive the company king was next on the list found a couple of review that lets say were not so good and many people said that the company suehiro was better and prices are not to bad basically what it cam down to is i found i can get the following..... one 800, one 1000/3000, one 6000 for around $95 then i thought 800 and 1000 is prity close togather so i dont know if i need both kept looking and found i could also get a.... one 240/1000, one 3000, one 6000.....for around $120.. i personaly know nothing about this company if any one has any info it would be appreciated...also if anyone has any sugestions about the grit setup would be great this would be my first "complete set of stones so i wanna do it right (without spending a fortune) any info or sugestions on theese stones other campanies or even diffrent kinds of stones as there are soooo many would be awsome THANKS GUYS
-Dave
 
I have several Suehiro stones and they are pretty nice. I must admit I grab my Shapton Pro stones first for most tasks, but then move to others for finishing, depending on what I'm sharpening. In all, I have Shapton, King, Suehiro, Arkansas, DMT and Atoma stones. The King is the only one I don't really use, the rest I really like for their individual tasks. I'd recommend going with the second set you posted.
 
For water stones, I'd suggest look at Jason B's posts. He's a resident water stone expert. For an economical solution, HeavyHanded washboard is good to go, also his recent review on Norton Econo stones & Jointer stones.
Some has very positive feedback with Fred Rowe's ERU.

Nowadays I use DMT credit card sets plus one DMT EEF, plus some home made strops.
Depending on your needs, sharpening stones can costs 50$ max or hundreds of dollars.
 
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