Help ID an older Lg Seb..

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Aquired this one recently without any paperwork..
Wondering if anyone had anything similar?

I'm guessing around year '99-2000

Older BG42 Style Lg Reg Seb
-No lot number stamped on Ti slabs
-Lightly anodized scales
-Older snub-nosed style hollow ground blade
-Old style clip
-Has the number 24 hand etched on blade near pivot hole both sides, nothing else

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I would put in the early - mid 90's I am thinking. With no lot numbers on ti handle and blade etched with a #24, I would say its a proto Chris made. Might even be older than that judging from the blade profile and grind. The blade profile ha more belly and is a little different than your regular run of regular sebenzas, thats why I am thinking its a Chris Proto.

She is a beauty by the way. Its had to beat a large regular sebenza.
 
The new style Sebenza or Galuka prototype I bought from Scott Cook had an ATS-34 blade with a satin finish and engraving of "PROTOTYPE" across the handle scale.

Since the photo of the knife is at an angle it is hard to tell if the blade profile is standard or not. I'll take a peek inside the small #60 Seb I have and see if there are handle scale markings, there is a chance they didn't start doing batch numbers until later.
 
Thanks very much guys for the info.
Here's a little better angle with my Lg B 99 user.

Ano has a smaller "R" on the slabs
Ano has two identical smaller sized bronze washers
Ano blade grind is a little thicker at the edge
Both are hollow ground and stonewashed

Ano thumbstud has 3 ridges between peak and base, B 99 has 2 ridges.

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I'd say mid 90s... probably BG-42, and the old s'cool clip would put it at about 95-96 maybe 92 or so because or the lack of markings on the Ti....


She's a nice one that's for sure :thumbup:
 
Betcha a dollar it's a prototype that CR himself made before the official style change in 1996. Give him a call and ask.
 
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Do call CRK, and please let us know the results of the conversation. Great looking knife.
 
Thanks everyone for the input.
I'll try to contact CRK and let you know.

I think you're all correct, it is probably an evolutionary piece
when he was experimenting with anodizing.

It is certainly an interesting piece and will make a good backup
for my Lg user, the action is buttery smooth, perfect lockup,
it is smoother opening than any large or small Seb I have ever handled.
 
CRK got back and thought it was an early Lg Reg production

-The first 200 Large Regulars were numbered, circa 1997, so after those.
-The anodizing was after market, they weren't doing it.
-There was as short run of ATS-34 regulars because the steel wasn't ready yet.
-Some of the early productions were made before they started stamping the Ti.

This one sharpened up much easier than my BG42 does. Who knows.
I'll call it a circa '98 large regular Sebenza.

Great knife though.
 
Hey Ron - I'm a late on this because I wanted to check a couple of things first. In looking at an early Reg Seb made on March 27, 1997, I've found the following similarities and differences to your anonymous Seb.

- the CR logo is small like Ano, with no #
- the thumbstud had 2 ridges like your '99, not 3 like Ano
- no # on the blade or slabs
- no stamp or batch marks on the ti slabs
- larger "bump" on the spine of the blade
- birth certificate states the date above with a BG42 blade, not ATS34
- scales not anodized
- large and small bronze washers, unlike Ano
- the '97 is on par the a known '01 BG42 for sharpening, much slower than other ATS34 blades I have.

On thing you didn't mention is the number of tiny ridges along the edges of the Ti slabs. The '97 I examined has 4 tiny "peaks" and my '01 Reg Seb (that you're familiar with) has 3 larger "peaks". See if you can tell what Ano has.

Based on what CR told you and the other facts discussed, I'd still say that yours was either a prototype/test run of the regulars before they started production in 1996 (with an ATS-34 blade), or one that was made after the first 200 but before your '99, but modified aftermarket with parts from other Seb's, (washers?).

Just more information to chew on with your Mahimahi :)
 
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On thing you didn't mention is the number of tiny ridges along the edges of the Ti slabs. The '97 I examined has 4 tiny "peaks" and my '01 Reg Seb (that you're familiar with) has 3 larger "peaks". See if you can tell what Ano has.
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I knew someone was going to make me count ridges.. ;)

My B 99 has 3 ridges and the Ano has 4 ridges on the edges.
It's a morphodite.

Should ask how many ridges 1-200 have if someone has one.

-Ron
 
I have an August 1997 small - I posted my results in bold inside Steve's post, fwiw


DallasSTB said:
Hey Ron - I'm a late on this because I wanted to check a couple of things first. In looking at an early Reg Seb made on March 27, 1997, I've found the following similarities and differences to your anonymous Seb.

- the CR logo is small like Ano, with no # Large CR Logo
- the thumbstud had 2 ridges like your '99, not 3 like Ano 3-Ridge Thumblug
- no # on the blade or slabs No # Blade or slabs
- no stamp or batch marks on the ti slabs No stamp/batch mark
- larger "bump" on the spine of the blade small "bump" on spine and blade profile matches later knife
- birth certificate states the date above with a BG42 blade, not ATS34 card says BG-42
- scales not anodized no ano finish
- large and small bronze washers, unlike Ano double-small washers
- the '97 is on par the a known '01 BG42 for sharpening, much slower than other ATS34 blades I have.

On thing you didn't mention is the number of tiny ridges along the edges of the Ti slabs. The '97 I examined has 4 tiny "peaks" and my '01 Reg Seb (that you're familiar with) has 3 larger "peaks". See if you can tell what Ano has.

Based on what CR told you and the other facts discussed, I'd still say that yours was either a prototype/test run of the regulars before they started production in 1996 (with an ATS-34 blade), or one that was made after the first 200 but before your '99, but modified aftermarket with parts from other Seb's, (washers?).

Just more information to chew on with your Mahimahi :)
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Well, I'll take back my guess that this is a test piece I think. It looks like CR put together Regular Seb's from whatever parts were available for the first couple of years until the production lines got fully standardized.

Looks like a great user you got there. I'm with you on the "smoothness" part. The '97 that is headed north :grumpy: is the smoothest of the half dozen or so Seb's I've handled.
 
DallasSTB, no worries, it will be taken care of for sure:D

I have another seb from the 1998 timeframe, and it is a three groover too.

I was hoping stjames was going to have a lot of info for us on this thread or fooj. I will try and get some side by side pics taken soon.
 
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DallasSTB, no worries, it will be taken care of for sure:D

I have another seb from the 1998 timeframe, and it is a three groover too.

I was hoping stjames was going to have a lot of info for us on this thread or fooj. I will try and get some side by side pics taken soon.
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Well hey there Dan. I know it will be buddy. Just a little :( . It's a great knife. I think I've pretty well described the '97, so this one Ron has is sort of a variant that falls in the void time somewhere prior to '99, probably prior to '98 based on the "groove thing" you mention above.
 
Here's Lg regular #10, born in July of 1996, I would surmise (my EDC is #63, born 8/1/96).

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