Help identify this sword I got as a gift please.

eyeeatingfish

eyeeatingfish

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I was at a friends house to visit. This is an older couple, early 60s i think, they had given us some premarital counseling and I think he used to be a pastor. So me and my wife took them out to dinner and he tells me he has a pocket knife for me. He had just showed me this knife my dad had given him and was all impressed by it. It was a cheap liner lock folder stamped china with the name Sheffield on it, and i showed him my kershaw JYD composite.
So we get back to his house and he walks out with a 4 foot long sword and says here is the pocket knife. They were moving and didnt want to hastle with taking it. Of course I was happy to receive it.

It looks fairly nice, seems like you can see possible hammer marks that are polished over. (like one might see on one of those jamacan drums) There is some light surface rust too. The thing is pretty heavy too. No identifying marks I can tell. The edges were sharpened. He said he thought he received it around the time the braveheart movie came out, but it doesnt look like a cheap remake. Im not exactly sure how to identify a good sword though.

So i thought that maybe this might be something of value. Not to sell but something I might work very hard on keeping pristine. I also need to learn more about how to clean up the sword. The wood is easy enough, but im not sure if its a good idea to take some high grit sandpaper and a cotton polishing wheel to polish it up.
Below im posting two pictures I took of it, maybe someone can recognize it.
Thanks for any help on the subject.
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It appears to be an inexpensive replica sword. Sand it down with SC Wet-or-Dry paper to 800 or 1000 grit and coat with a good oil or Renaissance wax. Don't try and buff a sword on a grinder with a buffing wheel.
Stacy
 
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bladsmth said:
It appears to be an inexpensive replica sword. Sand it down with SC Wet-or-Dry paper to 800 or 1000 grit and coat with a good oil or Renaissance wax. Don't try and buff a sword on a grinder with a buffing wheel.
Stacy
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Seconded, likely a very inexpensive replica item, probably made in India or Pakistan.
 
So much for receiving some awesome sword.
Thats ok, it looks nice enough that ill probably hand it on my wall.

Why is it not a good idea to buff the sword?
 
Triton said:
Seconded, likely a very inexpensive replica item, probably made in India or Pakistan.
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Perhaps the Philippines, CAS Iberia was making a variety of sharpened decorator swords there at the time. Even so, the average price for this would have been around $100-150 back then. Around 2000 they were still selling their model CI-076 (a slightly modified version of your sword) at a suggested list price of $324. A nice gift; but, it is not a real sword. IIRC they had a threaded rat-tail tang that can break if you handled it too roughly.

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I believe that same sword was sold through Atlanta Cutlery, making it most likely a Windlass blade.
 
Not necessarily. That doesn't even have enough quality to be a Windlass piece. Atlanta offers a lot of swords not made by Windlass. The crude brass makes me think more Pakistani or maybe an early Deepaka. Windlass makes far from the highest quality swords on the market, but even their stuff isn't that crude. I've been wrong before, though.
 
You're right, I think; I did some searching and couldn't find a Windlass sword that matched that pommel or the shape of the guard. Atlanta doesn't seem to carry that particular style anymore, unless I missed it on their site.
 
When a long ,heavy object.....like a sword.......meets a fast moving rotating surface.....like a buffer.....bad things happen real fast. It is hard enough to control a 3" hunter on a buffer. A 50" sword is for a pro only ( and they treat it with a lot of respect).
Stacy
 
I have my buffer on a drill press and can change the speed so i would be doing it length wise not perpendicular where it might throw the blade.
Also with a slower speed i think it would be safer, are there other reasons not to buff it too?


In the picture on the pummel you can kind of see a pin near the wood. Is that a low quality way of attaching a pummel?

A $300 gift aint bad. If youre right about it being made in the philipines or whatnot I wonder if it would stand up to any use. Not planning on going and hacking things but at least nice to know the capabilities.

I can see certain things that are not symetrical and stuff which does make it seem like its not a super well done piece but other than that I dont really know swords.
 
I know a way we used to polish awkward objects when I worked in yacht fab. was putting a buffing wheel on an angle grinder. In the case of a sword, clamp the puppy down solidly and buff away! Sometimes it was just a lot easier to bring the buffer to the work rather than the work to the buffer.
 
eyeeatingfish said:
If youre right about it being made in the philipines or whatnot I wonder if it would stand up to any use.
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Phlippinos can definitely make good user blades... but the question remains whether this is one. The manufacturer might have just wanted a wallhanger. Surely Philippinos can make those too.
 
Close, but not quite. If anything the Iberia one is better. The one in the pics has a leather-covered ricasso, only a single hole in the terminal of each quillion, and a smaller pommel that lacks the finial on the end.
 
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