Help ID'ing knife and suggestions

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Mindz_I

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Hey,

Could someone please help me identify this knife (top one :D)
Any specs, and more detailed pix would be greatly appreciated.
What are the notches on the spine of the blade ? I'm hoping they're mearly a surface for grip and not any kind of sharp surface (reason below).
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=1387490



I've a couple more pix that i'd apprecaited help identifying but i'll have up load them onto some webspace when i get home from work.

Reason I ask about that is, i'm after a sturdy simple knife for use in the country thats fairly sheeple freindly (looks wise). Once again any reccomendations appreciated.

Also would that be usable with a Safariland 6004 holster ? I've already got said holster, so is it simply a matter of fitting a sheath to the holster or does it require shop / custom fiting?

Thanks inadvance for any help you may give.
 
Its an MFS.
Its a great little knife, oal is 8.5 blade is 4".
We make a sheath for this knife that fits the 6004.

m
 
Looks to me like a Strider MFS, but the grind is unusual. If I had to take a guess, it looks to me to be hollow ground. All of the production MFS's are full bevel ground. So the one pictured may be a prototype or an early edition.

The notches in the spine would be for grip only. I don't remember if the production model even has them or not.

The standard kydex sheath should hang off of the leg straps of the 6004 just fine. But, the Strider Guys could make you a custom one that bolts on. It would be a stronger mount.

Eric
 
Cheers guys, much appreciated.

Redhook:

Yeah thats what threw me. Browsing the site i was unable to find the above knife with that grind, the mfs doesn't sit as nicely with me with the full-bevel grind (though no doubt their is an excellent reason for it).

Mick:

Looking on the web-site (which is a really nice and dynamic design) this seemes to be a common theme amongst the consealable backup knives i.e. a full bevel grind but when you check out the 'detailed pic' it shows them with a different grind (e.g. The DB)

Are these other grinds availible ? As as a personal preference I find them nicer on the eyes :)


On that note is there any chance you could fill me in on a couple of the benifits of a full bevel grind, since that seems to be very much favoured.


Finally as mentioned above here are the remotley hosted pix i'm looking to ID.

http://www.nazgul.v21net.co.uk/temp/strider/skc7.jpg
http://www.nazgul.v21net.co.uk/temp/strider/d-al.jpg


Cheers guys, sorry to go on but I would like to be sure when I order


Ta
 
The first knife is one of the WP models in a clip point. (WP2?) The second is one of Duane's customs, the D-AL.
 
Top one looks like a Mick Strider WP - CP and the bottom one looks like a Duane Dwyer AL to me. Very nice knives to have in the hand, I might add. :D
 
Cheers chaps, much appreciated.

After a bit of consideration i'm going to choose between the SA, BG and MFS (narrowed that down loads huh :D).

Am I right in thinking the MFS is thinner than the other two models listed ?

I'm looking for one knife (suplimented by an Axe) which is going to be used when hiking / Trecking for as a utility knife and to prepare food (in the loosest term of the word :D), to cut rope, strip wood etc.

I realise that with a strider its pretty much red, but I'd like a knife as rugged as possible also.

For these purposes (A total outdoor utility knife) which would you reccomend ?


Also, (hopefully Mick will answer this along with questions posted above) Is Hollow-Grind still availible in the above models as i'm having trouble tracking them down.

Cheers once again
 
Mindz,

The MFS was designed from the ground up to be an affordable Strider knife. Hence, the full bevel grind. This can be done via machine with very little manual labor involved. And, that helps reduce the cost. If I remember correctly, Duane told me that they still sharpen the MFS by hand however.

The full bevel grind will still serve most of your purposes well! But, I would agree with you and would prefer a hollow ground blade for fine cutting chores. You might want to consider a good folding knife for things like food prep. But, the rest could be left up to the MFS or your axe.

Before your picture, I wasn't aware that there were ever any hollow ground MFS's. But, I suppose Mick had to start somewhere with the design. I'm sure that if you really really wanted one, you could probably order one from Mick that way. But, it will cost you more and you will probably have a very long wait. Or you can wait to see if one comes available for private sale.

If money is not an issue, you might want to consider one of the EB series of knives. I see early hollow ground EB-S and EB-LS knives come up for sale once in a while.

Eric

Edited because Sniperboy has a hollow ground EB-LS for sale here http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=237605&highlight=Strider
 
Hmmm so does the MSF have a different grind to the SA and DB ??

Cheers Redhook,
help much appreciated. Thanks for the links also, though i'm not to keen on the G10 grips. While i've no doubt they're excellent grips, i find the paracord alot more aesthetically pleasing and also hear its better with wet hands. Since i may be using this knife while caneoing, thats of fair consideration.


Anyone else got any input ?
 
Hey Mindz_I:
I'm pleased to see another englishman here in the strider forum!:D
I too was looking for a strider to use in a "general camping knife" role. I'd narrowed the choice down to either a MFS, EB-LS or EB-S.
Eventually I chose the EB-LS, and let me tell you, it is a fantastic knife BUT I do think it is more suited to a "tactical" (for lack of a better word, cause I just can't think of anything more suitable right now). I say this based on the grip. The EB-LS G-10 grip, as I understand, is extended from the tang at the top and bottom of the handle to facilitate a sure grip in "high stress" situations. Example: You don't have time to make sure you grip the knife perfectly when you draw it quickly, yet it is still secure in your hand. AND it works. However it is not the most comfortable grip for extended periods of time, only because it is not designed to be!
For your needs I would go for the MFS, as it has a wider blade than the other "concelable back-up" knives(= thinner edge) and a more comfortable grip over longer periods of time than the EB-LS. Just my opinion.
Mick, Duane and every one else:
If I got the grip thing wrong, I'm sorry and please correct me. :)

edited cos my brain isn't working after packing 33tonnes of bricks today!!!:confused: :mad: ;)
 
Mindz_I,

The SA and DB are also full bevel ground just like the MFS. These knives were available for a time with different grinds, but if your were to buy one new today, it would be full bevel ground. There are quite a few more of these floating around that were hollow ground, but these are pretty small knives.

I think you made reference to some of the pics on the Strider website showing different grinds. They are older. All of the pics with white backgrounds are new.

Eric
 
Redhook:
Cheers mate much appreciated.


Smat:

Out of interest where and when did you buy your strider and for how much ? (if thats not being cheeky by asking ?)




The one thing that kind of puts me off the MFS is i'm sure I read somewhere on these forums that its thinner steel ???? Kind of supported by the fact that the inch shorter DB appears to be .2 oz heavier (according to bladeart).

Anyone confirm or dispell that for me please ?

Also, depending on which picture you look at of the MFS is appears to only have a single wrap (if thats the word). If thats the case anyone know if its availible with a double wrap ?




Cheers
 
Mindz_I:
I got it at TAD. I think it was $350. And I wouldn't worry about the MFS having a slightly thinner blade. Being a Strider it is still brutally strong, plus it will be slightly better suited to a camping roll as it will cut more efficiently. Any thing that you can't use that knife for (in a camping roll) you shouldn't be doing with a knife, you should be using an axe!! :D :D
I did read in Tactical knives that the MFS is avaliable with the "double" wrap. Though I'm not sure where they are avaliable. You should keep on checking www.tadgear.com or drop MATT D a line, you can find him somewhere in the strider forum. I haven't dealt with him personally but I've heard nothing but the best about him. Good luck.
 
Cheers mate.

I don't suppose anyone knows how thick the MFS actually is do they ? and i'm assuming the DB and SA are .25" thick ?

Sorry for all the questions, but I really want to buy the right knife for the job.


Smat:

Since you've tried the G-10 and didn't rate it to high for comfort, have you tried the Cord wrap ?
 
Mindz_I:
don't get me wrong, the EB-LS is comfortable over short periods of time. Over longer periods the cord wrap wins hands down for me. I have a BT with double cord wrap, a WP wharnclife with single cord wrap, a MT G-10 (different to EB-LS handle) and the EB-LS. I personaly think the WP is the most comfortable over longer periods of use. if I were you I'd get the MFS single cord wrap. Or just do what most people on this forum do: get them BOTH!:D you know you will in the end!;)
 
Cheers chappy,

For the most part since it will be my primary knife (other than a multi-tool) I'd want the knife to do every task required of a knife possible. I'd rather not have to carry the weight of a good quality folder, nor have to explain to an LOE why i require 3 knives when hiking as I doubt they'd see the argument.

With this in mind it seems to me that the MFS is the best choice for a discreet hiking utility knife, that will also be used for caneoing that is 'fairly' sheeple freindly.

My logic is; (drawn from whats mentioned above)


- Blade slices better than the DB or SA as its thinner; While i'll scarifce some strength it should make the knife a little more usefull for camp chores such as preparing food etc while still allowing me to limb sapplings if needs be.

- Larger more utility blade shape.

- Cord grip facilitates better grip than G-10 (so handy when canoeing)

- Kydex sheath 'should' allow it to be readily affixed to a vest whlie canoeing and its also viable fitted to a 6004 holster.

With this in mind do people think i'm making the right choice for the tasks in hand? (please please critisise / suggest alternatives).

Hopefully people can see what i'm going for, but I still have a couple of questions before purchasing.

- Exactly how thick is the MFS as appose to the DB and SA?

- How secure are the Kydex sheaths ?, Since when canoeing it will be worn inverted or horizontal on the vest and needs to be accessable in a hurry. I don't fancy having it go swimming


Cheers once again.

P.S.

SMAT:

Aye, i'm likley going to buy a MT or MT mod=10 in the future just to fondle :D
 
Mindz_I:
Yep, thats pretty much what I was saying. Basically the MFS is the best strider out there for your needs. Have fun and enjoy your new "pal". BTW I think the MFS is 3/16 inch thick but don't quote me on that. Since I have never been canoeing I can't help you on that one. Other than that it's been fun and I hope I;ve helped you. :D
 
Okay....
Sorry...didn't read everything.
The MFS has a blade that is .190", the same as those on the AR/GB.
It is only available in full bevel grind. The knife shown is an older MFS.
Full bevel grind is superior to hollow grind in pretty much EVERY way…except appearance, and a tiny bit of tip strength.

Your top link is a model WP
Next is a Duane Dwyer model AL

Talk to you soon

m
 
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