Help - Issue with new Hinderer

[Heartland_edc]

Ok, so maybe this isnt an issue at all, but I need help understanding whats happening. I just recieved my brand new Harpoon Spanto Eklipse from DLT Trading. The knife is perfect in every way (this is Hinderer #13 for me) except for one thing. When the blade is in the closed position, it has a LITTLE TINY BIT of movement if I press down on the tip of the blade. It feels like I can actually move it a little bit further into the closed position. It makes a very faint click, or "metal interaction" noise when I do this. Im hesitant to call this "closed position blade play" because its VERY little in terms of movement, and its only up and down. I'm guessing its the detent ball/hole, but I don't really understand exactly what is causing it. Here are my questions for any detent experts out there:

1. Is this even an issue?

2. Will this issue work itself out over time with break-in? Or is it always going to be there?

Any info would be appreciated!

 

[halden.doerge]

Can you tell if the blade is contacting the standoffs when you push down on it? If it's not, I'd say live with it. If it is, I'd consider sending it back to RHK for servicing.

Usually what causes detent rock like that is that the hole is just slightly too big and so the blade can move while the ball is fully sunk into the hole. So I wouldn't expect it to go away.

 

[Heartland_edc]

The blade doesn't contact the standoffs. Here's the thing, when I push down, the blade moves further down, but when I release, it moves back up. Its not really a "free" wiggle. Does that make sense?Thoughts on that?

 

[Lapedog]

The blade doesn't contact the standoffs. Here's the thing, when I push down, the blade moves further down, but when I release, it moves back up. Its not really a "free" wiggle. Does that make sense?Thoughts on that?

It has to do with the detent hole in the blade being abit larger than the ball I suspect. When you push it down on the tip the blade is being depressed because the ball can run abit up the side of the bowl shaped detent cutout on the blade. Spring tension then pushes the detent ball back into the centre of that bowl shaped cut out when you let go.

It won’t to away with time but it is completely harmless. I have seen it on other knives before and as long as it isn’t causing the blade to touch the standoff it is totally harmless. If you stop pressing on the tip of the blade you might even forget it is there.

I know how it is though, sometimes we obsess over dumb things. If you don’t like it then send it in.

 

[brandoak]

Sounds like its not coming into contact with the stop pin when closed and the lockbar is acting as a spring (opposite direction) When closing, the stop pin briefly comes into contact to stop the blade but the lockbar (dent ball now in hole) springs back the blade into a closed but not fully seated position...its a timing issue.


If this is so, its nothing to worry about..

 

[whitty]

I checked 5 of the ones we have in stock and did not notice it doing this, but I really don't think it is anything to worry about. I would say that if it is going to bother you then send it to Rick or send it back to DLT for a swap out. I would think they would have no problem with that. If you know you can live with it, and it will not concern you, then keep it and use it. The new Eklipse is a sweet blade and one of the sharpest we have ever seen come from the Ranch so I hope you can look past it or get it fixed and use the heck out of it!

 

[brandoak]

When closed, there probably is a small gap between the blade and stop pin (Blue arrow) resulting in movement of the blade when closed, and lockbar acting as a spring (Red arrow) *Detent ball and hole acting like a Pivot.*

Taking it apart and rotating the stop pin may work...or if you like a really quiet closer you could put some heat shrink over the pin.

 

[Heartland_edc]

Thanks. I REALLY love this knife. I hated the idea of sending it back if I didnt have a real issue. Im sure ill forget about it as time goes on

 

[Lapedog]

When closed, there probably is a small gap between the blade and stop pin (Blue arrow) resulting in movement of the blade when closed, and lockbar acting as a spring (Red arrow) *Detent ball and hole acting like a Pivot.*

Taking it apart and rotating the stop pin may work...or if you like a really quiet closer you could put some heat shrink over the pin.

Heat shrink tubing is a great idea. I might use some to try and reset my lock on my HD7 by giving the stop pin some extra width.

Problem is that will change the way the blade sits when closed.