Help me choose the right diamond stones please

Romans322

Romans322

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Hi there, I could use some quality information please.

I have an edge pro and I love it.
I mounted a stack of very strong magnets to the underside of the table, and I love the function of that set up so much that it's going to stay like it is.
(It's not the detachable magnet that edge pro makes).

Well up until now, I've been using stones that have backing plates of either plastic or aluminum. (Please keep snarky remarks to yourself).
Some Chinese plates (the plastic backed diamond plates), and two from gritomatic (an aluminum backed leather strop and an aluminum backed ruby ceramic stone).

So I ordered a few atoma diamond plates, but their steel backing plates are an issue with my magnetized table. (This problem didn't occur to me before ordering the atomas).

Gritomatic has a basic 3 stone diamond set that has aluminum backing plates, but those stones have some negative feedback about quality.

And the TSProf Diamond stones seem to have steel backing plates, but the technical data about those stone's backing plates is scant.
So I'm not entirely sure how the TSProf diamond plates are constructed.
Plus they too have some negative reviews in regard to quality.

So here's the deal.

I don't want a messy water stone set up, and I don't want to mess with lapping plates and all of that. So resin bonded (anything) is not something that I want in my life.
The diamond (plated) stone approach is right for me.

So my question is...
Which diamond plated stone is there of premium quality, with an aluminum backing plate?

Thank you for sharing some of your valuable time with me.
All glory to the risen Lord Jesus Christ, and no glory to us whatsoever!
 
Atoma, which is of premium quality, sells replacement self-adhesive sheets for their plates. Figure out a way to cut those to Edgepro size, and you've got it. I believe Gritomatic sells Edgepro-sized aluminum backing places.
 
That's very interesting and thoughtful, thank you for sharing that idea with me.
 
I’m not sure if Im understanding what you looking for but I saw diamond plate and

I love my DMT fine diamond plate.
 
What is the issue with using the diamond plates with steel backing plates? I have been using some CKTG diamond plates, on magnetic table systems for several years now. They are just a thin steel plate with diamonds attached. No backing plate. I use them dry and have had no issues that I am aware of. The ones he sells now, his is gluing to edge pro blanks, according to his website. So probably the same steel base plate, glued to an aluminum backing plate. But it doesn't really say, and I haven't needed to order new plates yet.

O.B.
 
Romans322 said:
Some Chinese plates (the plastic backed diamond plates),
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I have a set of those plates and they work for me for about three years now.

Romans322 said:
I don't want a messy water stone set up, and I don't want to mess with lapping plates and all of that. So resin bonded (anything) is not something that I want in my life.
The diamond (plated) stone approach is right for me.
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I made the same decision back then. I only use electroplated diamond stones.
But I also made a decision to only use cheap diamond plates.
 
Ive been using the edge pro diamond matrix stones. They give you less feed back but no issues whatsoever. I'd also pick up the leveling kit for the diamond matrix stones as well. Keeping them clean is the key.
 
All of the available diamond or cbn electroplated sharpening stones are on a thin strip of steel. It's only the backing that the steel is stuck to that is either plastic or aluminum, but all of the plates themselves are steel electroplated.

Your only non-ferrous diamond/cbn stones will be resin or metallic bonded stones (typically a copper tin alloy not affected by magnetic sharpeners).

None of these will cut as aggressively as diamond/cbn plated stones, but they will leave a great edge when you're done.
 
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DeadboxHero said:
Gritomatic Metallic bonded cBN stones.
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Hi,
I just wanted you to know that your suggestion is the solution that I decided to go with.
I hadn't heard of cbn stones until I read your comment, and it gave me an unexpected solution that I was seeking.
I ended up ordering a premium cbn stone with a copper/tin alloy as a substrate, with an aluminum backing plate, (at least that's how I remember the description, but they haven't arrived yet).

So thank you for sharing your recommendation with me, it was the one that I was looking for.

Are you born-again by the Spirit of Christ?
(you must be to go to heaven)

All glory to the risen Lord Jesus Christ, and no glory to us whatsoever.
 
UncleBoots said:
Atoma, which is of premium quality, sells replacement self-adhesive sheets for their plates. Figure out a way to cut those to Edgepro size, and you've got it. I believe Gritomatic sells Edgepro-sized aluminum backing places.
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This is the way! IMOHO there's nothing better in this space than Atoma.
 
Atoma or dmts. But if you are looking to make a less scratchy edge the bonded as the particles in the bonded are slightly submerged and which can be accomplished by using a finer grit in the first place with your atoma and dmts. Different strokes. I have both and I never use my diamond bonded as I am a utility sharpener and don't look at my edges with the hubble space telescope. Lol.. not knocking anyone now.
 
Rob Babcock said:
This is the way! IMOHO there's nothing better in this space than Atoma.
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I`ve just got an Atoma #140 - I need the #600 and the #1200.
Expensive but undoubtedly the best in the World because of the high production tolerances from Japan.
$80-$100 per stone but worth it cos they last for years.
Top tip - don`t rub too hard - let the stone do the grinding.Good diamond stones are really quick and because you can use em dry, they are so much cleaner.
Decent oilstones or Japanese whetstones are the best used with a sink bridge are the best but they`re messy and take forever.
Worth it though because the results are undoubtedly incomparable and unsurpassed especially if you have the patience and experience.
 
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