Help me identify these Busse's please!

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I have 3 Busse knives that I purchased a long...... Long time ago. I remember the one is the original Steel Heart. But for the life of me, I can't remember the style of the other two. I have included scans of the blades for your viewing pleasure. And help would be greatly appreciated. The paracord wrapped blade has an OAL of 8.5" and the blade itself is 3.75" The other blade with the green laminated wood handle is 14" OAL and the blade is 8.5". The last image of course is the original style Steel Heart.

Also, since I'm taking advantage of everyone's good nature, if you can give me an idea of their current value.... I might be offering them on the forum! All are in original condition.

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[This message has been edited by Maxon (edited 04-21-2000).]
 
Nice images Maxon...

The first knife is similar to the old Jungle Assault, though it isn't one. Looks like it was a one of a kind. I'm sure Jerry can shed some light there. I would estimate value somewhere in the $500 category easily.

The second knife looks like a cross between Jerry's old Desert Storm fighter and the old Camp Special...another knife which is probably limited in number to single digits.
I would estimate this knife is valued somewhere in the $900-1000 category in light of its condition and rarity.

The third knife to this day remains one of my favorites...the original Steel Heart...and it's a honey. This knife in mint condition should bring somewhere in the $1000 category...it was originally introduced at $187.50.

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Thanks for the response. I purchased the knifes from Jerry at the Columbus (OH) Gun and Knife show several years ago. I even think I have an original BUSSE cloth patch (I'll have to look!). I'd love to hear from Jerry to see if he has any input on the paracord wrapped model. It was the only one he had on the table and I like it because of the design. So I picked all 3 up and never used any of them because they were so neat. A shame really, since these knifes are designed for use!! But I just couldn't bring myself to a point were I wanted to "chop wood" with them!! I've had several dealers that have looked at my collection (400+ knives)and specifically wanted the paracord wrapped knife!! So I knew it was different.

Thanks again!

[This message has been edited by Maxon (edited 04-20-2000).]
 
Maxxon,

Real nice knives! You should keep them!Sell something else!

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It is all Greek to me
 
Copis, you may be right. Where else can you get a return on an investment like that?!?!?! Who would have thunk it?
 
I had an original Steel Heart, and I had difficulties even selling it here on the Forums for about 200...maybe my technique was wrong????
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' So Andy, since we're on the topic of older Busse's, what's the value of one of the lil' Ugly with cord wrapped handles now? At least I held on to that one!
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Take care,
John Johnson

[This message has been edited by John Johnson (edited 04-20-2000).]
 
John...good to hear from you on this thread.

The Lil' Ugly is plentiful, so the value right now is nominal.

As far as the original Steel Heart, I'll put my money where my mouth is and talk to you about buying it myself or helping you sell it...if so, take the conversation off line with me personally at andyprisco@worldnet.att.net



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Authorized Dealers:
Busse Combat Knives and Big East Traditional Bows

Professional Shooting Svcs: Corporate Training and Stress Mgmt.

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Whew,

I'm glad the value on it is minimal. It's become my de facto kitchen knife for years now, and has survived three kids, constant immersion, and all other abuse that's been thrown at it, most of it inadvertant. It's been dropped point first into a stainless sink too many times to remember, been used to cut food in cast iron pans using the pan as the cutting board
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, and has had the odd "scrubby pad" used to take the crusty food stuff off of it. The finish has seen better days, but I swear, the edge is sharper now then when I first got it.
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One of these days, it's going to go in a first rate Kydex sheath, and it's going to make one heck of a neck knife...assuming no one misses it from the knife block...which will never happen!
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I have a bad feeling my wife will ask me what happened to "the only sharp knife we have in the kitchen", and I guess I'll have to sharpen everything in the knife block!
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Take care,
John Johnson
 
"Memories. . . .like the corners of my . . ." mmm, I can't seem to remember the next word in that song. . . only more proof that I have lost my mind.

These knives look great! The cord wrap as well as the large camp knife were made in the '80's and were kept around the shop and used as hole patterns for drilling. I finished them up and sold them sometime in '92 or '93. The cord wrap is D-2 steel, The camp knife is A-2 steel and the original Steel Heart is ATS-34. Not all original Steel Hearts were ATS-34 as they were mostly made from A-2.

The ATS-34 models are very rare as less than 200 were made. All of these were made by me personally and were a bear to make because of the identifying characteristic. The identifying characteristic is the 3" diameter grind line as observed in the choil area. We had special tooling made just for this operation in order to deliver excellent lateral strength to the blade. It's a great little knife and I have seen the rare ATS-34 models sell for as much as $1,200.00. The A-2 versions commonly run in the $600.00 - $800.00 range. It all comes down to finding the right buyer.

The camp knife is, likewise, fairly rare as it was not a standard model and is deeply hollow ground. The little para cord model was made prior to Operation Desert Shield and was available to police and military only throughout Desert Storm. We still get calls from proud owners of these little demons inquiring as to whether or not we still make them. These were some of the earliest variants as I would hand grind different shapes and grind configurations in each blade. Very few, if any, have twins.

Early Busse knives are quickly being recognized as highly collectible. I have personally made thousands of knives and rarely see any of these for sale. As Busse Combat continues to grow and expand and move more towards production the handmade models appear to become increasingly more valuable.

Constraints put on me by available time and the fact that my injured hand only allows for minutes of continuous grinding as opposed to the endless hours I had previously enjoyed are certainly harbingers that my days of handgrinding may soon come to an end. The custom "Variants" that I now make will certainly become very rare as they represent, what appears to be, the end of my custom grinding days.

Congratulations on your collection.

Yours in 17 years of Nuclear Toughness,
Jerry Busse


 
Jerry, Thanks for the input. I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to clarify the details on these GREAT knives. You are as gracious now, as you were when I purchased these knives from you many years ago. To bad all makers aren't as giving to their customer. For that is the mark of a true MASTER KNIFEMAKER. Thanks again!
 
I found the shoulder patch that went with the 3 knives I bought from Jerry! And the wife sez I can never find anything in my gun/knife room!!

Don't you just hate when you know for a fact you have something and can't find it!!

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Maxon, that's a beautiful collection you've got there. BTW, nice flatbed scanning technique also.

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Semper Fi
 
I guess this thread has run it's course and I'll probably be running these pieces on the exchange. "Who sez you have to wait a year or two to get a Busse'. Seems to me theere are always a few on the market." Thanks guys for all the input. And a special thanks to Mr. Jerry Busse for his personal insight. Just goes to show you no matter how busy a fellow he is, he still stays in touch with his customers!!

I guess those who can DO, those who can't teach!
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I look forward to ordering a Badger!


 
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