HELP ME!!! My Girlfriend Wants to get a Humidifier

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HELP!!!! I have lots of knives...some bead blasted...some satin...I usually just coat them with a thin layer of tri-flow and box them up....I have NEVER had problems with rusting etc....now...my girlfriend wants to fix our heater...the humidifier hasn't been working so the air has been dry these past few winters..good for knive blades...she says that the humidifier will "moisten" the air....that doesn't sound to good from a bead blasted blade perspective....we don't live in a very humid place....Baltimore, MD...should I try and talk her out of fixing the humidifier...will it moisten the air and cause rusting...HELP!!!!!
 
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Simple solution. Keep knives, get new girlfriend.

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JAC,
I would not get overly concerned. I live here in Fla. and we are pretty humid a lot of the time. I don't have any significent problem with corrosion even on my file knives. But, I do use the Marine Tough Cloth to make sure. It really is a wonder at how well it works.
If this is really a major problem for you, get the Tough Cloth.
Better safe than sorry.
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On the bright side, a humidifier may help keep natural handle materials from shrinking and swelling as much. I have a friend that moved from KY to a much drier and colder northern state and a lot of his horn and stag contracted. Unless your girlfriend likes to keep the humidity at the "rain forest" level, I doubt you will have huge problems.

Or you could tell her that you will need a gun safe with humidity control now, to protect your investment.
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Hahaha...sounds to me like you're just tryin' to avoid the hassle and cost of fixin' that humidifier, so you can buy more knives.
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J/K I don't think this will be a problem, but if you want...spend $3 - $5 bucks on an ammo can and they;ll be save for sure then.

-AR

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You're lucky! My whole damn country is a Humidfier! You can't beat that now could you?
Just oil them once a week, don't just oil them and store them for the next 5 years! Take the B.B ones out once every 4-5 days to check for marks, thats all. I've been doing that for the last 3 years!
 
Those things break because of hard water deposits. If it's been off-line for years, it's probably hardened solid. Fixing it will probably mean replacing it (which'll set you back several fine knives worth).

Even if you can fix it, it'll just plug up again (especially if you throw a little cement powder in there (hint... hint)).

So, I'd explain to the lady that those things are just balky and it's not worth trying to fix it. Get a little table-top humidifier for the room she spends most of her time in, and keep your first loves elsewhere.



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Chuck is right! After going through several of the damned things, we have given up. They are always gumming up with calcium deposits and other such, and I have never noticed any significant improvement. I still got static electric shocks all winter. Get a room humidifier or, if you have floor heat vents, they make things that you can set on top of them that will humidify the air. But you must keep refilling them.

I live near Washington, DC, and I have never had a problem with rusting except for my old Randall, which was not properly cleaned when we were first married and we used it as a butcher knife. The stain is purely cosmetic, it still cuts like mad. Please do not yell at me, I have already yelled at myself for the mistreatment of a fine tool.

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Here's another option that occured to me. Because she's not your wife, it's ok to use deception and dishonesty.

Surely if you ask around you'll find that you know someone who knows someone who's nephew is a furnace repairman. Call the guy up, explain your situation, tell him that you're gonna tape a c-note inside the panel on your funace that you open to change the air filter. Tell him he can have that c-note if he'll just top by your house tomorrow evening after work in his furnace truck, wearing his uniform, go downstairs, bang on the ducts a bit, and come back upstairs and tell your girlfriend, "Well, bad news. The fratastat is completely plugged and the control circuit is burned out. They don't make that model anymore, so parts are hard to get. Besides, if I fixed it, I'd have to add the ultraviolet, infrared disinfecting retrofit kit. The law requires that these days ya know. Remember that case a couple of years ago of that whole family in Detroit that died of ebola from their humidifier? That was the same model you've got. Now, we've gotta put on the UV/IR kit whenever we fix on of those. All totalled, I'd be about $900. Of course, I could put a new unit on, but your furnace is an older model with an odd-size fitting. It'd cost a lot extra. Of course, we could rip the whole furnace out, but there's asbestos insulation in that model. It's no worry unless you disturb it. So, there'd be an extra charge for that. We'd have to tent the whole house. You'd have to move out for a week, maybe two, and we'd probably have to replace all the ducts too. Maybe you want to talk this over with your husband."

Don't forget to mention to your girl that because you love her so much, even though it might hurt your knives, you've arranged to have a furnace man come over this evening and fix the humidifier. Unfortunately, you've got to work a couple of extra hours this evening, so she'll have to let him in. When you get home and find her in tears because the humidifier is hopeless, you can say, "Cost is no object. If my baby wants a humidifer, we'll turn this house into a jungle. Where's that guy's number. We can stay at my mother's house while they tent ours for the asbestos removal."

Of course, she'll be the one to say no. And you can respond, "Well at least we're gonna get a room humidifer for you. And, if it's dry skin that's your problem, I'll personally apply lotion to every inch of your entire body twice a day. And then, you can do me."



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
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As humor, ghostsix's posting is painful, but it points in one direction. A humid<EM>or</EM> is of course a chamber providing a better environment for cigars; you could buy or construct a <EM>dessicating</EM> chamber for your knives. (It is possible, of course, to go too far with such a chamber, in that some handle materials should not be dried out.)
 
I felt no pain,and happen to have several humidors.I don`t keep knives in them,however.
 
I agree with Jackyl, buy an ammo can, get a couple bags of dessicant (the little bags that come with telescopes, optics, other stuff; it dries the air), use a Tuf Cloth, and put it all in an ammo can.

Cheaper than Dirt and Brigade Quartermasters have these cool flat ammo cans that are wider than they are tall (and have a roughly square shape). You can get one (or more) of those, and easily keep your knives safe.

Spark

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Careful with ammo cans and dessicant packs.

There was a thread on here some months ago from a guy who did this and ended up with rusty knives very quickly (three weeks, as I recall).

Dessicant packs attract and retain moisture. But, once they get saturated, they can actually work in reverse. You've got to bake them to drive the moisture out of 'em before you put them in the can with your knives. They will make the environment inside the can very dry, perfect for steel, but harmful to many handle materials (even some plastics and rubber, even just the adhesives used on some knives might dry out).

A gun safe with an automatic dehumidifier, which has a humistate and maintains a constant humidity is better.

The next question for the group is: what humidity to set it for? Where is the ballance point between rust on the blade and drying of the handles? 50%? More? Less?

Chuck
 
there's an alternative solution that might work in ways you had not expected:

buy your girlfriend a really great knife--something she would like, which probably means something pretty and small enough for her hands. mebbe a kickass set of kitchen knives. mebbe a gorgeous damascus folder with rainbow titanium liners and silver handle scales (i'm making this up as i go along--if we want women to like knives, someone's gotta make more knives that women would like in price ranges their boyfriends can afford! dellana's knife is sure purty, but the price tag was beyond most of our paychecks). heck, have it etched with a heart and your names or something she'd like.

then spend time with her showing her how to care for her new toy. pay attention to her while you're doing it. get her eating out of your hand
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also, walk around the house and wonder aloud about how all the fine fabrics, the walls, the paint, the whatever-it-is-she-DOES-give-a-hoot-about will be affected by a whole-house rainforest effect.

by the way, i'm not suggesting that women are so shallow that the only knives they'd like would look like jewelry. i know a few women who like their pocket blades both functional and sharp. some guys like hibben, some guys like cold steel -- same idea with the gals.

what i am suggesting is if she's worth being your lady, find a way to make her understand what's important to you. give her a piece of what you care about (bladework) that shows you understand what SHE cares about, too.

she might never become a knifeknut, but then, you never know.

if all else fails, there's always the marine cloth
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I have to go with Gollnick on this one. Deceptive? OK. Dishonest? Most certainly. But who's post has the girlfriend covered in lotion at the end? That's my man Gollnick. As any true knife knut knows from past purchases, the end does indeed justify the means. And Gollnick, throwing in the "then you can do me" line-pure genious, my good man!
 
The last time I was in a big museaum,they had humidity and temp.control in the cases,but I forget the reading.I think the guns had 68 degs.and 45%.
 
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