Help me pick a good router for a weekend warrior wannabe

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Okay, here's where I stand. A couple of the local stores have a 20% off sale on power tools for anything in stock. I took a look at both stores and found a lot of Ryobi, low end Skil, and similar brands. There were a few Porter Cable entry level models as well. What I was looking for was Bosch 1617EVSPK but, no such luck. One store did have the Bosch 1617PK, which with the 20% discount turns out to be about $175 plus tax which seems to be a pretty good deal. The reservations I have about this package are: no "soft start", fixed speed, and minimally it is less powerful (by 0.25HP) which I perceive to be a non-performance issue.

With the lack of "soft start", is this thing going to be hard on the hands and wrists? What does the lack of speed adjustability mean? I assume 2.0HP is more then enough power for a hand held router that may someday in the distant future see a router table.

In my own use, I have found Bosch tools to be very good. The speed adjustment feature seems like a good idea, especially for a beginner, to slow down the whole process until you get the hang of using this new tool. Also, a couple of the router boxes mentioned this would prevent wood burning. Based on past Bosch experience, I am assuming the lack of "soft start", balance, tool weight, vibration, noise, etc. are all well thought out and are issues I should not worry about with this tool purchase.

Anything else I have missed? If you had ~$200 for a router, would you buy or recommend a different kit, model, or brand? FWIW, I did look at the Bosch 1619EVS (~$300) but, it looks like massive overkill in weight, bulk, and capacity (after all do weekend warriors use 3"+ router bits to make their own doors and other big items?).

THANKS!
 
My personal favorites are Linksys or Netgear. I prefer the Netgear as it has a better built in firewall......er...oops. Oh, you mean that kind of router.....

Sorry, no experience in that category...:)

jmx
 
I have a 15 year old Black and Decker that I have used to make alot of small items like shelves or trim. It is under powered to round of the edge of decking lumber and some hardwoods like Oak, so I asked for a new router for Christmas. I picked the Milwaukee over the competition for a fixed (non plunge) router. I liked the simple sturdy controls and it should be well suited to work with a router table. I hope to get a plunge router in the future. If I were going to get a combo kit I would pick the Bosch set up. It is a real nice set with plenty of power. I don't know anything about soft start but it shouldn't make a lot of difference. I also don't see alot of need for variable speed. I can't really think of a situation when you would want it to run slower. I am just a handy man small project kinda guy so maybe someone has some better input to offer.

This site has some decent info:

http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/arti...ticleID=1470&position=8&type=article&partID=1
 
Originally posted by jmxcpter
My personal favorites are Linksys or Netgear. I prefer the Netgear as it has a better built in firewall......er...oops. Oh, you mean that kind of router.....

Sorry, no experience in that category...:)

jmx

Good one! :D I guess "weekend warrior" means different things to different people ;)
 
Given the quality choices you are considering it sounds like you already have some router experience. But if that is not the case "user tecknique" is very crucial no matter what brand and features you chose. Go shallow and work up to full depth especially in hardwoods when making cuts that require the full cutting surface of the bit. Of coarse this advise is if you have no experience. Also be sure you are working "into" the rotation of the cutter and not with it. Sorry if you already know this stuff, but it can save some headaches if not.
 
Bill,

Thanks for the advice/tips. I am trying to take advantage of the holiday sales and some time off to make saw dust :)
 
Hi Sid,

I don't know the model numbers. I have three routers. I have a big heavy Makita plunge router on a router table and another one that I can use by hand. I also have a small Porter Cable for which I have a plunge base as a seldom used option. I have a laminate cutter too, which is sort of a router but of no interest here.

I use the Porter Cable (2 hp or so?) the most. I find it plenty powerful and it's lighter and easier to maneuver than the big Mikitas. I can't remember using a router I like better than the P-C. Note that variable or selectable speeds reduce power - maybe not horsepower but the ability of the router to cut. I have a variable speed attachment on my router table and I can tell you the Makita doesn't really like to slow down. I use the variable speed to slow the machine down for big bits like those used to make raised panels and nothing else. Personally, I'm a little afraid of those bits. I wish I had a shaper to do that kind of work - much safer. I think taking small bites and readjusting is better than a speed reducer.

I'm not sure what soft start means. Perhaps it's a feature to avoid the router jerking to full speed in a fraction of a second. None of my routers have that since they are all over 10 years old so I can't comment on the feature - or maybe they all have it, I don't know. Basically it shouldn't be necessary. A plunge router can be turned on with the bit retracted and a non-plunge router can be started with the machine away from the work piece and then eased into the work after it is started. You want the bit up to speed before you start cutting anyway. I used to enjoy making reproduction furniture but my woodworking shop is now a warehouse so I have little occasion to use it. If you're interested I could sell you the big Makita that's not on the router table. It has hardly ever been used. Take care.
 
Hi,
I guess I am the true weekend warrior. I have three Sears models. Two are clamped in router tables and the third is a soft start, variable electronic speed that has a plunge base. It accepts different bases for guides and sleeves. I don't use them often, but they all came out of the bargain bin for about $30 each and were $100 + at retail. As to full time users, I bow out of any discussion of that. My stuff is now about 5 years old.
Enjoy, Ken
 
Well, I can offer a little input. First off, Bosch is pretty good quality from my limited experience with them. I would definitely look into Porter Cable or Dewault before buying if thats a possibility, just handle the machines and see which feels most comfortable to you in terms of reaching the controls and stuff. I personally avoid brands like Skil. Not that they're junk, but I don't feel like the extra cost for the better brands is that much money compared to the increased performance and sometimes reliability of better brands.

As far as soft start, I don't think it matters too much. Your dealing with quite a bit of power, but the machines are fairly heavy so they don't kick too hard. If you've got both hands on it and are paying attention (common sense really) you should be fine.
Variable speed seems to be a personal issue I guess. I like variable speed on any type of cutting tool personally. Just seems to work better for me to be able to vary both the feed rate and the cutter speed.I feel like I have more control over tear out and burning. I have more experience with small rotary bits for woodcarving though. My dad has a lot of experience with a router and he says that a router only needs one speed....as fast as possible. So I don't know what to tell you on that really other than both will work, you may just like one better than the other.
 
I wonder if Sid ever wound up getting a router?? I bought a Bosch 3.25 HP / 15 Amp Plunge router recently and am really happy with it. The soft start is a good idea after all. It lets the router come up to speed over a few seconds instead of jerking the router, so if you are trying to plunge over a particular spot you don't get moved off target. The variable speed turns out to be a plus also. It lets you run slower for larger bits and slower for hardwoods. This does make a difference and reduces burning on hardwood cuts. It is set up to work with a table set up and has 1/4" and 1/2" collets. I have been really trying to become a "woodworker" over the last year and have been learning alot and using my routers more and more (as I figure out new ways to use them). I finally tried one of those rubber router/sander table top pads that you can just lay a piece of wood on top and route with no clamps in the way. They work fantastic!..Ed
 
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