Help me with this one

Plumberdv

Plumberdv

Joined
Sep 26, 2008
Messages
8,160
I picked this up sometime ago and I'm hoping for some info on it. I know that it was sent to Buck for a new blade (right pointing arrow). The knife isn't radiused anywhere that I can tell and the inlays are wood that is nearly black.

What's the approximate age of the frame?

Old110.jpg
 
That looks like a early 2 dot frame nonradius, 1976-77.? I could be abit off w/o notes but I think close.Thanks for posting.DM
 
Well its definetly been rebladed and given the full spa threatment. The frame looks like a 4th version or older frame. It seems to me the really old knives third and earlier always had pretty dark ebony....but don't quote me cause I'm not sure I know what I thought I was thinking I knew anymore.

Anyway, remember that 1 or 50 brass and black micarta 110 you traded me??
That knife and this one you have pictured are the only two with those jumbo rocker rivets that I've ever seen. I'd be interested to hear.
 
OK then fourth version or older for the frame. All fifth versions and newer had SS spring holders. The other thing about the last iterations of the two pin knives were that the two rivets were straight and centered on the inlay. Notice this one is not...this makes me its a third or older.

But don't quote me cause I'm not sure I know what I thought I was thinking I knew anymore.
 
Last edited:
It looks like to me that the pins holing it together are only on the one side. I did not see the pivot pin for the blade in the picture either. Or have my poor old eyes failed me that bad already? HL
 
if i am not mistaken this is not a simple put in a new blade
there were internal engineering changes from then to now
this reblade could have required a new rocker bar !!
that would explain the larger rocker pin you see..
but dont bet no money on what i guess about on these old bucks..
because that is what it is, a guess..
with out data .. its a stinking onion ...
hee hee hee
"trax...all of us have learned NOT to say any thing is a fact!
 
I4Bucks said:
It looks like to me that the pins holing it together are only on the one side. I did not see the pivot pin for the blade in the picture either. Or have my poor old eyes failed me that bad already? HL
Click to expand...
On one side.
How can you say that when you can only see one side in the photo?
Pivot pins on polished frames are sometimes hard to find w/o the knife being in your hand and having a magnifier.Try looking at some 110's w/ that inorder to see a difference. Dave, I think it is a bigger rework throwing us off.DM
 
Hi, Plumberdv.

I think that I can help clear this up, since I believe that you got the knife from me. I had picked up a pair of brass spacer, brass rocker knives at about the same time (4th/1st from '70-'72). I cleaned them both, using my index finger, an old sock, and Brasso. Since I don't own any power tools for grinding or buffing, I usually work until the brass is clean, or tendonitis sets in. I realize that some have issues with cleaning but, after it happened a few times to me, I decided that I would not pass on hidden scratches, corrosion, etc. to anyone else.

While both frames turned out to be in great shape, the blades had been marked up pretty good by poor sharpening technique. They were nearly full, but scratched and a little wobbly. So, I sent them to Buck for sharpening and blade buffing to complete the restoration, thinking that the nice frames deserved better looking blades. When they came back, I was surprised to see that Buck had decided to replace the blades on both. They had assessed the blade play and determined that it was too much and went ahead with the replacement. Apparently, tight blades make a knife work better! Who knew??

My initial reaction was shock. When my pulse rate returned to normal, I contacted Joe about it, and learned that, if you're concerned about maintaining the originality of a knife as a collector, it's best to work directly through him when having knives worked on. It's also best to be crystal clear with your instructions to the repair group. He generously offered to try to find a couple of vintage blades to put in the knives, but I decided that I would look for new homes for the knives as they were, with the new blades included clearly in the ad descriptions.

Anyway, there are only the 2 variations listed for separate brass spacer; the brass rocker rivet and the stainless. I think that if you look more closely at the bolsters, you will see the rivets from both sides. I have another 4th Version sitting here, and the inlay rivets are offset. I have a 2nd and 3rd Version that have them centered. I have a few 5th Versions, and I see both conditions, centered and offset. Fun, ain't it?
 
Good post RLF. There you have it Plum.

Yep Trax, reading all Decaf's posts has scrambled my brain. Just kidding Dave.
I believed I was being humorous with that "I thought I knew" post. Guess I should give up my hopes for a career in Stand Up.
 
RLF, Thanks.So,they are 4th version 1 variation, ie. two liners.
"also best to be crystal clear w/ your instructions" Yes, this has happened to me w/ a different Buck trained repairman.Your thinking one way, they do it another and when you get it back your not happy and get rid of it.Buck is bound to still have those original blades they pulled out of the frames.You can ask for them back or have them put back in.Sometimes, you get one mess up.But of the dozen and a half knives I've sent in for
repair work.Only one upon return have I been dissatisfied with.So, I try to get over it looking at the entire track record. Was the larger stainless pivot pin a rework as well?Thanks for explaining.DM
 
Flatlander1963 said:
Yep Trax, reading all Decaf's posts has scrambled my brain. Just kidding Dave.
I believed I was being humorous with that "I thought I knew" post. Guess I should give up my hopes for a career in Stand Up.
Click to expand...

I thought it was humorous...but I've been spending time in the Forum-we're-not-allowed-to-mention-in-other-Forums, so my idea of humor may have been perverted somewhat... :rolleyes:

Yes, talking to people like 334dave eventually leads you to talk their talk...I had the same thing happen to me when I came North from down South; people smiled at my accent, but I noticed that the more I talked to Northerners, the more I adopted their accent...The same with my German; my instructor said my accent was perfect [for Bavaria, where he was from] but my grammar was atrocious... :D
 
Was the larger stainless pivot pin a rework as well?Thanks for explaining.DM
Click to expand...

Yes, it's a new pin from Buck. Actually, I think they used a larger brass pivot pin. That's what I recall, and some photos that I still have floatin' around on my HD seem to confirm. I couldn't find a definitive shot in the correct lighting to say positively. Plumberdv can correct me if the pin is SS.
 
when I came North from down South; people smiled at my accent, but I noticed that the more I talked to Northerners, the more I adopted their accent...
Click to expand...

Trax, I know exactly what you mean. I went in last week for an update on a tetanus shot and the pretty nurse asked where I was from. My standard answer is “Away” (that’s Mainer for he ain’t from around here) which usually gets a smile and then I tell them. I still have my Southern accent after 10 years but it’s changed. I’m not trying to loose it but I do have lots of Mainer phrases now and speak with a bit more pace.
Maybe you should invite Decaf up to get some “Upstate New Yorker” training and then he can come over and learn some “Down East” with me. Maybe that’ll take care of him….
 
Flatlander1963 said:
Yep Trax, reading all Decaf's posts has scrambled my brain. Just kidding Dave.
Click to expand...
chickentrax said:
I thought it was humorous...my idea of humor ... have been perverted somewhat... :rolleyes:

Yes, talking to people like 334dave eventually leads you to talk their talk...I had the same thing happen to me when I came North from down South; people smiled at my accent, but I noticed that the more I talked to Northerners, the more I adopted their accent...The same with my German; my instructor said my accent was perfect [for Bavaria, where he was from] but my grammar was atrocious... :D
Click to expand...
yes i also had new york folks like hearing my accent after i worked in baton rouge for several mos.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top