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Hello, I just received this knife from my dad, he said it was a Battle Mistress, but was wondering if anyone had more info on it,
Thanks!
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TENTEX said:
It’s a fake. Send it to me for proper disposal.
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lmcq784 said:
TENTEX TENTEX ever the helpful gentleman… but I’ll have to one-up him:

I’ll even cover your shipping cost to me if you send it to me for proper disposal. I’ll also make sure it’s RESPONSIBLY disposed of. ;)
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TENTEX said:
I’ve already sent them a prepaid UPS label.
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lmcq784 said:
Oh darn, I just sent my limo driver out to get it from him… with white gloves and a presentation box… guess I’d better call him back. 🤷‍♂️
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And I will give you 10.00 on top of all this ;)
 
Blammit said:
Cool, thanks for the replies! Any idea how old it is?
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SHBM Age

I have been studying SHBM lineage and have gone through the process.of trying to age them. the following is only for production run knives as the custom shop knives can come in any config, and I hope that Andre can verify this, along with SHSH masters Randucci and Mulder since I am sure the SHSHII went along the same handle changes. Enjoy:


97-98 SHBM with smooth handle slabs and smooth bolts or slotted bolts
these are the oldest of the SHBM's. Probably the first 50 -100 had these handles I am guessing. LE#37 had them and the 1 of 6 I use to have had them also but with slotted bolts.

97-98 SHBM with partially grooved handle slabs slotted screws
most of these were slotted screws but I have had a few with hollow rivets. Arguably the most desirable SHBM handle

97- 98 - SHBM with fully grooved handle slabs and slotted screws

98-99 SHBM with partially grooved handle and hollow rivets

99 - SHBM with fully grooved handle slabs and hollow rivets
The most common SHBM handle.

mid 99 - SHBM with angle grooved micarta handles and hollow rivets
this is near the end of the SHBM production run and were not very common. I have not see coated SHBM's with this handle but I have a few uncoated ones with this handle. Probably the rarest of all handles that I have noticed.

the end - SHBM with diamond quilted micarta handles like the E-handles.
 
Nothing to add here but despite what many here call that knife in error, the name was and is simply, Battle Mistress. This was the simple name that it was given by Busse Combat, the 'Straight Handle' part was what has been added as a sort of nickname by the shape of the handle in relation to the Ergo Battle Mistress which came next and also the Fusion Battle Mistress which followed the Ergo (that was a mix of the original Battle Mistress handle fused to the Ergo Mistress handle, hence Fusion). Back then, Battle Mistress was enough because it was the first of the lineage and I doubt it had been planned to become an entire lineage of naming large chopping knives from Busse.


Note the comments at around 1:20 on the naming of the knife. Also worth noting as some of you die hard extreme use types may have a heart attack hearing in the video, this knife has been reground to 8 degrees per side at the edge with a very slight 12 degree per side bevel at the very apex and a micro bevel to sharpen, with .020" thickness BEHIND the edge bevel where it turns into the primary grind. This knife was used HEAVILY for wood processing exclusively. Let that sink in for a minute and consider that most knives are 15-20 degrees per side from factory and Busse always exceeds this in my experience. If you're still following me and the numbers haven't completely lost you, how thick do you really need your knives to be?
 
Bigfattyt said:
Man...what a gift from dad!! The Quintessenrial large Busse!!
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Perhaps for a collector but I would say there are far better examples of large Busse if you're inclined to use it heavily. If you dig through the comments on the YT video I referenced you'll see Cliff Stamp did not have favorable comments on this handle and found both the Ergo and Fusion handle designs to be much more functional in most all ways. His words were along the lines of 'can barely call it a handle', which after owning a Steel Heart II (which is roughly the same dimensionally) I'd have to basically agree with. That said, the ASHBM did a great deal to improve the ergonomics and I am fond of this model for the given style/shape overall.

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Not trying to badmouth Busse here but simply share my thoughts overall because if it were me and my father passed that on to me I'd find myself in a bit of a pickle. Do you keep it as received or put it to use? I guess this is my way of saying with everything I've experienced with Busse I can share a point of view that would be hard to even begin to understand if the OP is completely new to Busse. So personally I'd keep it as a collector's piece (which it is no doubt regardless of condition) and find another Busse to scratch up. If you like the looks of it and want something similar, the Anniversary Straight Handle Battle Mistress would be the knife to find and it should outperform the original Battle Mistress in just about every way.
 
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