Recommendation? Help with Corby bolts

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Hey all. So I want to get into adding corby fasteners to my blades and such but I am slightly overwhelmed by the idea that now I have to make precise calculations on my handle scales now as well as the fact of my grinding past the bolts exposing the corby. I would like to have some 1/4” and 1/8” (if they exist?) corbies. Most of my handles fall between 3/4” to 5/8” in cross section with the exception of a few being thicker or thinner. What size is generally used for this application? Best place to get them?
 
Corby bolts come in sizes from 1/8" to 3/8" and in different lengths. Yu want a counterbore that matches the bolts you use. I highly recommend USA Knifemaker's bolts and carbide counterbore. Carbide will cut perfect seats for years ... buy once, cry once.


Here is one of my Corby tutorials:
All the suppliers sell Corby bolts and the drills for Corby bolts. Try USA Knifemaker, K&G, Jantz, Sheffield, Pop's, etc.


With some skill ,you can make a counterbore by carefully grinding down a drill bit that is the right size for the bolt body, but buying one will assure the alignment is good.

Corby Bolt installation:
NOTE - this procedure requires parallel tang surfaces, and scales with well mated flat inner surfaces. You also need your drill press properly aligned and trued.

When you drill the tang pre-HT, drill the tang holes about .10"oversize of the bolt shank size. You want a little room for error when inserting the bolts. This is normally a good policy for all tang holes, regardless of handle construction.

Once the tang is shaped and drilled (pre-HT), slightly relieve the inner areas on the tang ( the places that will be under the scales) by at least .010" to allow for a shallow epoxy reservoir in the final glue up. Leave a 1/8" circle around each bolt hole un-relieved to assure a firm seat in final assembly, and leave a 1/8" lip around the perimeter. A ball burr in a Dremel tool does this well. If you just bolt the flat scales on a flat tang with no reservoir, the glue may all squeeze out and create a glue starved joint.The slight relief also assures that the edges are seated flush, and thus cuts down on the small gaps that often show up after the glue is dry.

When the scales and tang are ready, clamp one scale in place on the tang and drill 1/8" pilot holes through it from the tang side, centering these holes in the tang holes. Drill pilot holes for all holes you will be needing, including thong holes and decorative pins/rivets. Remove the scale from the tang and set the blade aside. Completely finish the blade before final assembly.

Take the pair of scales, and tape or clamp them together. Drill the 1/8" pilot hole on the front bolt hole through both scales ( only this one hole for now). Re-drill with a bit the size of the bolt shaft. Separate the scales. Change the drill bit to the shoulder drill (counterbore) for the bolts you are using, and re-drill that hole with the shoulder drill until the shaft hole has about 1/8" left. Check the fit with a Corby bolt, and ream the hole a bit by carefully wiggling the scale against the bit if needed. A properly drilled shoulder hole will just allow the bolt to be inserted straight in with just a bit of snugness. The proper depth of the hole can be calculated by subtracting the tang thickness from the female bolt shaft length. Each shaft hole in the scales should be one half of this number plus .050" to allow the bolts to seat with just a little thread to go. This can be easily done by eye, too. Just remember that you can always drill the hole a little deeper, but adding wood back is a lot harder.

If all is good, screw in a Corby bolt and tighten just snug ( never torque down on a Corby). The bolt won't be tight on the scales, because the tang is not there, so tape or clamp the scales together to assure things don't move, and drill the other end 1/8" bolt pilot hole through both scales. Re-drill for the Corby bolt shaft hole, then drill the shoulder holes, and insert the second bolt to check the fit and alignment.
When both Corby bolts are seated, drill pilot holes for any other holes needed ( pins, thong holes, etc.).

At this point, I sand and polish the front edges of the bolted together scales. You won't be able to do this area once assembled.

Remove the bolts, and reassemble on the blade to test fit everything. If the holes need to be a tad deeper to allow the bolts to mate more, carefully deepen the shoulder holes. You need at least 1/16" of wood to allow the bolts enough wood to hold the scales firmly. Once the bolts are snug and all is good, you can sand the edges down to the tang. This will help with alignment and glue-up in final assembly.

Using a slow set epoxy ( I use T-88 ,and dye mine to match the wood color), put a little epoxy in the bolt holes in the scales and slide in the bolts, rotating them to assure the epoxy coats the entire inner hole surface. Using a tooth pick, clean out any epoxy that got in the threaded holes of the female bolt half. Now, put epoxy on both sides of the tang,. Set the female bolt scale in place, then set the male bolt scale in place on the other side. Mate the bolts and give each a gentle turn to make sure the bolts are not cross threaded. Once the bolts are started, tighten alternately until the epoxy starts squeezing out. Don't tighten more than snug. The bolts will be very strong, and only need to hold the scales in place securely, not clamp them down with force. Check that the scales are aligned to the tang as desired ( loosen and adjust if needed). Wipe off excess epoxy with alcohol, making sure to get it all off the front of the scales and ricasso, and set aside to cure for at least 24 hours. After the epoxy is set ( four to six hours for T-88) wipe the ricasso area with acetone to remove any squeeze-out or excess epoxy. You will thank yourself for this when doing the final polishing of the handle.

After the epoxy has fully cured, cut/grind off any excess bolts sticking out, re-drill any remaining holes to the size needed, and epoxy in any decorative pins, mosaic rivets, or thong tubes. Shape, sand , and finish the handle as desired.

Stacy
 
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To the OP .. I don’t know,I might be guilty of answering a different question (Stacy definitely answered yours), fwiw, here is my reaction. I am pretty mathematically inclined, so the process for corbys did not bother me, and in fact I started out with them. However, I found they do require some back-and-forth fitting (which takes time), and especially as my handles got thinner, the risks (which you list) became more apparent to me. The result is that I have been moving pretty consistently *away* from corbys in favor of pins (peened to produce a tight mechanical interlock. I know Stacy sings the praises of corby bolts, but the above is where my own experiences (and temperament?) have led me.

By all means try the corbys! They definitely give a sound mechanical lock to the scales. But I wonder if they don’t really sing (relative to the extra work they require) for hard use blades like EDC’s and hunters, skinners, bird-and-trout, etc. most of my blades are kitchen knives, so they are pretty pampered, and so the pins seem quite reasonable. Then again, horsewright’s blades are definitely not pampered, and he successfully uses only pins (I think?)
 
blades are definitely not pampered, and he successfully uses only pins
And as been mentioned countless times throughout the years, on this and other forums when the question comes up, pinning has been the standard for many hundreds (if not thousands) of years on countless millions of knives without failing.
 
And as been mentioned countless times throughout the years, on this and other forums when the question comes up, pinning has been the standard for many hundreds (if not thousands) of years on countless millions of knives without failing.
As a counter point, they have also been used for thousands of years on countless millions of knives that HAVE failed.

All methods have failures, usually through user error, both on the part of craftsmen and knife owners.

Try everything, find something that works well for you and master the snot out of it!
 
Thanks for the responses guys, and thank you Stacy for the tutorial. I’ll be ordering some corby bolts here shortly and testing them out.
 
The thing to remember when drilling and installing Corby bolts (actually, with any type pin/rivet) is to drill and install one bolt first, and then do the second one. This assures that they will all mate up in final assembly with no issues.
 
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