Help with double edged grinding!

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I'm dying to do a double edged blade, but so far my efforts havent payed off. are there any tips tricks etc. that someone might be able to share with me? they start out pretty nice then i i find my lined squiggling a little. also my centerline seems to be kind of weak. instead of being raised in the center its really rather flat. what can i do to fix that? thanks guys!

HammerFall
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thicker steel, smaller wheel if hollow grinding.
practice practice practice practice :D
 
I can tell you how I do it.
With the knife completely profiled, scribe the parallel edge lines, then the centerline, or spine line, on each side.
Take it slowly, making a pass or two, then switching hands and doing the same to the opposite side bevel.
Whan you get to the tip, the bevels will go past the centerline. Don't worry about that because when you do the second set of bevels, you will bring it back to center, and it is a natural way to taper the blade.
As you approach the centerline, stop, and start your next set of bevels. Be very careful at the tip so you don't get it too thin.
Stop when you approach the centerline. You want to leave a small flat on each side, before heat treat.
After HT, start grinding again, only making a pass or so on each side to SLOWLY bring the grinds to the centerline. If you don't feel you have the control to do this on the grinder, stop, and proceed by hand.
The main thing is to take it real slow, and careful.

Let us know when you get to this point, and we can go further if needed.;) :D

Edited to add: It's imperative to keep the knife horizontal with each pass across the belt, and to hold the blade the same with either hand, not letting one hand tilt etc.
 
thanks. i think what i did was getting my centerline.... then tried to finish grinding the blade to where i wanted it, instead of leaving flats untill i got the shape i wanted and then finishing by getting the centerline straight.
 
One other thing that might help is to do your grinding after heat treating...that way you only have one chance to mess it up. I've had difficulty with these grinds too and this has helped me a bunch. Good luck!
 
I've only done a few just for fun (it wasn't ;) ) but I'll throw in my 2 cents. First off, read what Mike wrote again.

OK, now read it one more time :D

I started out trying to do it all before heat treat and it was ugly. I have 2- 8" benchgrinders I use. I was working on the high speed grinder on a 60 grit wheel and it ended up looking like a kris blade :eek:
So I heat treated it and went straight to the 120 wheel on my slow speed grinder. That slowed the grinding down a lot and I finally had some control.
I had to adjust my grip too, as the blade gets thin there gets to be less and less space to support the blade with your finger/knuckle. Instead I went to doing all the control with my hand holding the handle/tang, and supporting it with the free hand. Kind of grab your wrist from undeneath with your fingers and put your thumb near the gaurd on the blade.Elbows against your sides and rock back and forth rather than moving your arms.
Practice a little and you'll figure it out, and definitely heat treat it before your anywhere near finished shape.
 
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