Help with Glock 23 FTF Problem

rrg991981

rrg991981

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I just bought a Glock 23 with a Sprinco Recoil reducer and I just shot my first magazine of Federal HST (The first bullets of this guns life, and out of 12 rounds (I down loaded by 1) 6 FTF's, no FTE's though. The first 3 cycled fine, the next 2, FTF, 1 fine 2 FTF, 3 Fine, them 1 Fine, some of the Rounds were pushed down into the Mag at an angle, it is wierd. Any advice??? is this a Sprinco problem Or could the gun not broken in yet, every Glock I have shot so far has feed anything I have shot right out of the box.
 
i would suggest removing the aftermarket part and replacing the factory spring/rod. glocks require little breaking in, if any.

did you wipe the lubricant/abrasive off? it is the reddish stuff in the rails. it is there to remove burrs during initial firing.

also, it is possible that your mags are an older series. we had problems with series 5 mags. there is a little number near the top that tells what series they are from.

i believe they are on series 8 now. maybe 7.
 
rrg991981 said:
I just bought a Glock 23 with a Sprinco Recoil reducer and I just shot my first magazine of Federal HST (The first bullets of this guns life, and out of 12 rounds (I down loaded by 1) 6 FTF's, no FTE's though. The first 3 cycled fine, the next 2, FTF, 1 fine 2 FTF, 3 Fine, them 1 Fine, some of the Rounds were pushed down into the Mag at an angle, it is wierd. Any advice??? is this a Sprinco problem Or could the gun not broken in yet, every Glock I have shot so far has feed anything I have shot right out of the box.
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Isn't that Sprinco gadget one of those dual spring things? Toss it out and either put the original back in or get a Wolff stainless guide-rod/spring kit.
 
Ya, just leave it stock brother. The stock parts are perfectly reliable, and the recoil on a 23 is very very manageable.
 
When you say "FTF", do you mean "failure to feed", "failure to fire", what exactly happens?

Generally when having problems with a Glock, it can generally be traced to the recoil spring, or a dirty striker channel, or both.

Please clarify what you mean by "FTF".

Thanks!

Andy
 
Failure to feed, some of the rounds were pushed way down into the mag at an angle. Also all my mags are series 8
 
Yea I have a 23 and it is all stock, and went boom every time
 
rrg991981 said:
Failure to feed, some of the rounds were pushed way down into the mag at an angle. Also all my mags are series 8
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that after market part might be affecting the angle of the bbl, or the tension might be too much or too little.

there is nothng you can add or do to a glock to make it function better.
 
I remember reading one of the big shooting gurus (can't remember which one) saying most mechanical Glock problems he ever saw while acting as instructor were related to aftermarket parts.

Other than night sights, one shouldn't mess with a perfectly working Glock.
 
zenheretic said:
I remember reading one of the big shooting gurus (can't remember which one) saying most mechanical Glock problems he ever saw while acting as instructor were related to aftermarket parts.

Other than night sights, one shouldn't mess with a perfectly working Glock.
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all the problems ive seen were magazine or recoil spring related. (we dont allow aftermarket parts, all repairs are done through our armory.)

glock only recognizes: light, sights, or .357 sig/.40 bbl conversion (glock parts). might be marketing on the bbl's, but we listen to them since they made the darn thing and will be subpeonaed (sp?) on our behalf.
 
MORIMOTOM said:
all the problems ive seen were magazine or recoil spring related. (we dont allow aftermarket parts, all repairs are done through our armory.)

glock only recognizes: light, sights, or .357 sig/.40 bbl conversion (glock parts). might be marketing on the bbl's, but we listen to them since they made the darn thing and will be subpeonaed (sp?) on our behalf.
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Americans love to add aftermarket parts to stuff. Then specifically in guns, there were the old 1911's which you had to add to just to make them functional. Luckinly now most makers do that for you. The Glock just doesn't need all that stuff.

But I'm guilty too. Sometimes I mentally cry when I look at what I did to my M-14. :o
 
i have never had a glock which wasnt 100% reliable, i too say get rid of the aftermarket spring.

glocks dont need any modding anyway, maybe a grip reduction on the larger frame ones, maybe.
 
zenheretic said:
Americans love to add aftermarket parts to stuff. Then specifically in guns, there were the old 1911's which you had to add to just to make them functional. Luckinly now most makers do that for you. The Glock just doesn't need all that stuff.

But I'm guilty too. Sometimes I mentally cry when I look at what I did to my M-14. :o
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I never saw a Colt 1911 that wouldn't perform out of the box when used as intended. There is a reason it is the most copied handgun in the world. My guns for CCW are all left stock with the exception of sights, I do like tritium sights on defensive handguns.
 
little update, Glocks amaze me, it took me about 3 seconds to swap it out, they are incredible pistols!
 
zenheretic said:
I remember reading one of the big shooting gurus (can't remember which one) saying most mechanical Glock problems he ever saw while acting as instructor were related to aftermarket parts.

Other than night sights, one shouldn't mess with a perfectly working Glock.
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I saw that also. I think that it was Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch.

Bruceter
 
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