Help with identification

Anybody know what these are?
I think they are 2009-ish... just based on the lanyard hole area looking kind of like Marco Bolo.
Unfortunately I don't have them in-hand... so I don't know blade/overall length.

Thumb ramp seems a bit unique?
I already looked through all of the bussecollector ganza page.
Maybe the medium-ish choil on the bottom one will help, as a clue?
Thank you for looking!
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Anybody know what these are?
I think they are 2009-ish... just based on the lanyard hole area looking kind of like Marco Bolo.
Unfortunately I don't have them in-hand... so I don't know blade/overall length.

Thumb ramp seems a bit unique?
I already looked through all of the bussecollector ganza page.
Maybe the medium-ish choil on the bottom one will help, as a clue?
Thank you for looking!
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Old school hand ground Nuclear Satin Jack variant
& ditto on the Active Duty variant.
I believe these were all Idahoskunk's at the beginning...?

I'm lucky to have one of the very few OS Nuke AD's, along with 2 newer Nuke AD variants

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Found a sort of similar (as post #15) Satin Jack recurve made in April 2002. Ref thread
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