Help With Info About Design of BATAC

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Wabajack

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I was hoping you guys could help me with information about the chosen design of the new BATAC. According to the Bussecollector.com it is 10.75” overall which seems to be far to long for a 4” blade with a 1” choil I was hopping you could tell me why you would have such a large choil or a choil at all on such a ‘small’ knife, to compare another knife with a 4“ blade take the Fallkniven F1 which has a blade roughly the same length as the BATAC but is only 8.5“ long which is 2.25“ shorter? Why not get rid of the choil and have a 4” blade?

My Fallkniven A1 is just .25” longer that the BA TAC and yet it packs a 6.3” blade. Seems to be that the knife wasn’t designed very efficiently when you compare it’s 4“ blade to the A1‘s 6“ blade, could you explain the efficiency of having a 4" blade with 1" choil and rather long handle that seems to have a lot of 'dead' space instead of a 6" blade with a comparable overall length.

I know there are a lot of die-hard Busse fans on here so I just wanted to let you know that I really am just curious to the design choices, these questions have been killing me :). It is the only Busse I have ever handled (briefly) and from what I’ve seen so far seems to be lacking a practical design when compared to a knife of the same blade length and a knife of the same overall length. :)

PS - The Fallkniven’s were just used as an example because it’s what I am most familiar with. ;)

Thanks in advance guys,
~ Wabajack :)
 
It is essentially a Satin Jack TAC with 2" removed.

ETA:

I know that sounds glib, but there are times when a larger blade in unneeded but you still want the leverage of the large handle. I would much rather have "too much" handle than too little.
 
the batac is based on the tac handle series, the satin jack tac being its predecessor.

the batac is basically the same knife with a shorter blade.

comparing the batac to the fallkniven is kind of like comparing apples and kangaroos.

the fallkniven is thinner, narrower and shorter, and is probably more of a light carry knife.

the batac, being much stouter, in all dimensions, could most likely serve as a good all around camp knife. you could do light chopping, batoning, yet still use it for food prep or cleaning game. i think the blade shape with the large belly would excel at cleaning game.

the long handle suits medium hands as well as those with extra large mitts.

most busses are designed with the idea that the end user will "abuse" it. thick, wide, and heavy, it will take far more than the fallkniven, though it is a fine knife.

jerry has offered and will offer many different designs, shapes, sizes, etc. while the batac may not be for you, i guarantee there is one out there that is similar in dimensions to what you are accustomed to.

the 1st gen satin jack, baIII, and leaner meaner streets come to mind as similarly sized knives.
 
The choil is a stress relief.

It removes a section of the blade where the cross section changes rapidly. Cross section changes are points where cracks will propogate. When that is removed, the blade is less likely to crack in the first place.
 
You can also choke up with index finger in the choil for more control when skining game or delicate cuting.

Also better for sharpening the whole length of edge. A small choil also does this.

It can do things a bigger or smaller knife can do. It is a larger knife for a reason. I also have lighter smaller knives for other reasons.

I also think you need a few differant types and sizes in a collection...but if only could have one the BATAC would be hard to beat
 
While I'm no HOG I have both a SJTAK and a BATAK. This may help understand. The BATAK has a 5.3" blade (not a 4" blade). My SJTAK has a 6.4" blade (handle to blade tip). The difference is 1.1 inch with the BATAK having a slightly deeper blade (1.58" to 1.50") the the deepest point. The rest is identical.
Ron Athay
 
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