Help with M1840 Musicians Sword?

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The attached photos are of an M1840 Musicians sword I purchased the other day. Comparing it to other blades of its model, I’ve noticed that the stopped fuller seems to be rather uncommon, most of the swords sporting a fuller that goes nearly to the tip.

The stamp shown is the only one in the pictures from the sale. I’ll do an inspection when it arrives to see if I can find more stamps. Does anyone have suggestions for why the stopped fuller or which company may have made this sword?
 
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Welcome anoard

Let me preface this to say, sometimes a few pictures show every thing but in this case leaves some questions.

Quite similarly, I own an example much like this that was a German export during the late 19th century. Like your's, a fuller well short of the point.

Dimensions and straight on pictures can prove to be helpful. Mine, I can better place in time, as it is marked to Germany, so after they began import/export mandates.

My pictures not really any more helpful except to say mine has a 28" blade.

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Mine has a steel scabbard, which we also saw on the ACW Emerson&Silver swords. My thoughts on your's points to German export and most likely post ACW but the blade grind quite common back to the 1820s, so we can't really judge it by the blade. You can see mine is different, even with a shorter fuller. Let me add a pre ACW use of the blade type.

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Really a very common epee like blade used for decades, differing from the spadroon blades. Here my 1864 Ames nco and a short Roby USMC musician boy swords. The Roby also lacking a full fuller and I'll attach a clean one of those in a followup.

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So here is a clean Roby, as above with a short fuller.Roby 04 29 13b.JPG

We could speculate on the date of your's but we should only regard it as of the style and possibly an ACW import. I would figure third quarter 19th century. Then we have to consider that it was not used in the US at all.

Cheers
GC
 
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