Help with some Cattarauguses? (11709)

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Or should I say Cattaraugi? I have spent the last couple of years, as one Knife World author calls himself, being an accumulator. Collectors tend to specify; I like 'em all. So now I'm getting around to trying to categorize and date some of my "accumulation," beyond the rough research I did when I found them. I'm looking for a Catt expert. While I have some info on these, I'd appreciate any additional info and value anyone might have.

The first is a well used Cotton Sampler that I believe is a factory reject....that somehow got out. Stewart's "Big Book of Pocketknives" shows it as an 11079. But mine has the number as 11709 with a scalloped stamp overtop. This one has the top curved tang stamp. Does anyone know if they actually released mistakes as "seconds," or if it just managed to walk from the factory. Does this make it more "desirable," like the mis-marked Case 61111-1/2? Thanx, Barry

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Help with some Cattarauguses? 2 (B1079)

I decided to break these into three posts. This Catco B1079 has the best markings of any of my Catts. The slip of paper with my notes that was in its plastic sleeve says "rare" with a mint value of $450. (Obviously not mint, and no tellin' when I wrote the note!) For the life of me, don't know where I found that info, but can't find it in any of my price guides now. I did see a single blade A1079 online. It's basically the spittin' image of my Remington R1123 Trapper, just a quarter-inch shorter. Was this Catt produced in the same era as the Remington? Any additional info greatly appreciated. Thanx, Barry

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Help with some Cattarauguses? 3 (12919?)

The tang stamp on this third Catt is barely recognizable. The "CATTARAUGUS" is straight, not curved, with most of the letters worn off. Goins doesn't show which came first, straight or curved. At some point since I got it, I was able to determine that it is likely a 12919, though there is no visible number on it. It has Catt's original 1906 patent noted on the linerlock and a small lanyard hole. Case and Tony Bose reproduced this knife in more modern materials without the lanyard hole or lock. I have seen it called a Yukon and a Yukon King of the Woods, though I have also seen a vintage Catt King of the Woods hunter in a different pattern. Some informally call this a rat tail hunter. So I'd appreciate any info anyone might have as to actual model number, name, and age. Thanx in advance.

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You might try to get a moderator to move this over to the Traditionals Forum.
You will probably have better luck there.
:)
 
I can't help you with your questions but those are some really neat old knives.--KV
 
afishhunter said:
You might try to get a moderator to move this over to the Traditionals Forum.
You will probably have better luck there.
:)
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Hah! I originally posted this in General Knife Discussion, and when I realized I wasn't getting any responses after quite a few reads, I noticed a number of posts about Catts here. So I requested a move to this forum, and a moderator obliged. You're probably right, but they're also probably gonna get tired of moving this thread! Thanx
 
It used to be this forum was the place to be for ID, however the moderators no longer systematicly move posts to here. Most of those who really "know" visit both forums but some don't post in the traditioal forum. I'd stay here for at least a week.
 
brownshoe said:
It used to be this forum was the place to be for ID, however the moderators no longer systematicly move posts to here. Most of those who really "know" visit both forums but some don't post in the traditioal forum. I'd stay here for at least a week.
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Yeah, this is where this thread will stay. (As mentioned, it first went to General Knife Discussion, then Bernard Levine's forum, where I got afishhunter's tip to move it here.) In searching "Cattaraugus" here, there appeared to be a number of folks with the right literature to get me the lowdown on these knives. I'm thinking I need to track down the old Catt catalog reprint and other books on Catts that folks have mentioned.
 
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Actually, I saw it in the General Forum, and made my suggestion there.
I did not even think of Mr. Levine's forum.
Sorry about that.
 
Dewey Ferguson's 1971 reprint is of the 1922 and 1930 pocket knife sections. The 11079 is shown in the 1922 catalog. It looks like your knife except the pattern number stamp.

You might check the catalog reprint by Ritchie and Stewart. I don't have a copy.
 
Howdy. Nice knives!:thumbsup:
I found the 12919L in Ritchie & Stewarts reprint, page 44.
The catalog lists it as: large Folding Hunter Yukon LB
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Thanx, all, for the info. So apparently "King of the Woods" was a line of knives with at least a couple models. Now if only my blade and markings were as good as the frame and handle! Special thanx for naming those reprint catalogs. I see Knife World still has the Ritchie and Stewart, but it may be hard to find the Ferguson. Maybe someone else will chime in on that large trapper. I've since noticed that the springs are soft on it, and it appears both handles were repaired near the spring pin, of course that's the one with the fullest blades and best markings! Thanx, again, Barry
 
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