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Pinoy Knife · Jul 12, 2006

Greeting's all
im looking for some good stainless Preferably at least 154cm or better
i called crucible and found it was almost $200. for a 3 footer 3/16 thick 6 in wide . Ouch that hurts !! does anyone know a good place with maybe a little better price ? im not trying to sacrifice quality here and won't use 440 .id like to use s-30 but id have to buy $1500 worth of it just for this project . thank's

Mike Hull · Jul 12, 2006

Pinoy Knife said:
....................... im not trying to sacrifice quality here and won't use 440 .id like to use s-30 but id have to buy $1500 worth of it just for this project . thank's

I doubt you could tell the difference between properly tempered 440C and 154CM.
What is your complaint about 440?

Call any of the knifemaker supply houses and they'll sell you small lots of barstock, and I never heard of a $1500.00 miniumum order from Crucible for S30V. Are you talking to Bruce DiVita, 1-800-365-1168?

Raymond Richard · Jul 12, 2006

Matt, Did you check with Admiral? I bought a piece of ats 34 from them about 6 years ago, 1/4 X 4 X 36. I think for around $150.00. I'm sure prices have gone up since then but might be worth checking.

butcher_block · Jul 12, 2006

i get my stuff from crucible didnt have a min order
i am planning on buying a sheet of 3/32 cpm154 it will cost me a few $$$ but im goingto sell off some to help lessen the blow
also how much 3/16 cpm154 are you thinking you need i have some in the shop maybe i can help you
butch

hp2spare · Jul 12, 2006

ATS-34 is the same as 154cm... and it's easy to get.

Pinoy Knife · Jul 12, 2006

Mike the 154 & Ats are much higher temp steels right ?
i believe they both temper around 800 or so correct ? 440 tempers aroung 400 degree,
i never said that Crucible had a minimum im looking at 3/16 thick 6 inch wide bars. Both Admiral and crucible are around $ 200.00 for a 3 footer and i need enough steel to build 6 17 1/2 inch long knives and am cutting D guard's from the sheet to get a 1 piece knife / guard . the outside of the guard is just under 6 inched wide . i was hoping someone had a secret place they were willing to share for some "Large" pieces of steel . i will spend the dough if i need to but id like to check a couple other places first .

Butcher Block Thank's if ya got something send me a P.M

butcher_block · Jul 12, 2006

ooo 6x18x3/16 sorry i dont have that kind of chunk and its too bad i dont because i have an up comming order for a D gaurd trench knife in cpm3v
butch

mete · Jul 12, 2006

Most knifemakers temper 154CM and ATS-34 at 400-500 F. If you are making a chopper [machete, bolo, kukri] even 440B would work well .

J. MacDonald · Jul 13, 2006

Your problem is wanting exotic material (compared to what most shops use) in a 6" width. Most high end stainless is sold in bar stock that is 2" wide or less. Special orders cost more.

Mike Hull · Jul 13, 2006

Pinoy Knife said:
Mike the 154 & Ats are much higher temp steels right ?
i believe they both temper around 800 or so correct ? 440 tempers aroung 400 degree,
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Your original post in this thread in part said "im not trying to sacrifice quality here and won't use 440" .................................

Just kind of made 440(C?) look cheap, quality wise by comparison. It's of course nothing of the sort.
Some people temper ATS and 154 at higher temps(some don't), but what does that have to do, or say about quality of steel? Nothing!!

440C is tempered at a lesser degree but so is 01, 52100, 1095, and the list goes on. I just don't understand the correlation of tempering temps versus quality.