HEST review

8.5? then he says it's disadvantage is a +? good review anyway. good job guys!
 
To me the HEST's size is the key to it's effectiveness as a survival tool.

The big knife you leave at home doesn't save you! :)
 
I find it funny when tactical guys try to review survival knives. You can't find too many tactical folks who really understand wilderness survival.
 
R.A.T. said:
I find it funny when tactical guys try to review survival knives. You can't find too many tactical folks who really understand wilderness survival.
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I guess they would rather have a log cabin than a simple debris shelter.:jerkit:


they watched to many grizzly adams shows!
 
Not trying to beat up on them but I have found that there is a wide degree of difference in the tactical mind and the survival mind. While it would seem these two should be similar, they're not. Tactical minds like to blow things up and break things. Real survival minds approach life much gentler and work within the parameters they're given. Tactical minds seem to think 2 more magazines of 5.56 ammo constitutes a survival kit while survival minds are thinking more basic. :D
 
Review looks familar .....not sure why you'd risk losing your "Survival" Knife in a fool hearty move like trying to spear something...might as well use it as a grappling hook too :D
 
R.A.T. said:
Not trying to beat up on them but I have found that there is a wide degree of difference in the tactical mind and the survival mind. While it would seem these two should be similar, they're not. Tactical minds like to blow things up and break things. Real survival minds approach life much gentler and work within the parameters they're given. Tactical minds seem to think 2 more magazines of 5.56 ammo constitutes a survival kit while survival minds are thinking more basic. :D
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is that why it's called a "survival strategy"?
Tactics are for the immediate goal, strategy for the longer term?
 
I thought it was a good review of the H.E.S.T.; I just don't think the reviewer was that familiar with Robert Pelton; his "vocation"; nor his thinking behind the H.E.S.T design.

And, he didn't anyway indicate that he was familiar with Jeff & Mike, Randall's Adventure & Training, or RAT Cutlery.

If he had taken the trouble to look into the background of the principal's, he may have had a better understanding of the H.E.S.T concept.

Tony - I believe that is Borelli's site.
 
Don't get me wrong, I was not saying his review was bad. I appreciate objective opinion. All I'm saying is tactical thinkers cant be survival thinkers for the most part.
 
The movie, "The Road," (shameless plug) is an interesting study in how some people are relating to it and interpreting the book and the movie. The book and the movie are one, long escape and evasion struggle. The survival mindset.

In a world where a .22 Short in your gut is a death sentence, you had best learn how to run and hide and engage only when you have to.

The "tactical" minded people that you are pointing out are not looking at it this way either. Superior weapons and a lot of ammunition will win the day. The truth of the matter is, you are only going to get into so many engagements until your luck runs out. Depending on the exact situation...that could be the end of you over something relatively simple.

I think this is the same thing.
 
survival is where you are grateful to have anything that serves as a sharp edge, a cooking surface or a source of fire. I wrote a piece on being lost in Borneo after climbing a sheer cliff and ending up being the first outsiders in Maliau's Lost World. My partner, Tony Lamb, a biologist I had invited along for the helo drop, had discovered that he had left a metal film can with five matches and some toilet paper. I was able to scrape out enough dry tinder from a rain soaked log and we lit a magnificent fire in the pouring rain. I slept in a hollow tree on a bed of ferns and Tony who was messed up from falling off the cliff was dry and warm in front of the fire. Its times like that you wish you had a HEST...and a small bottle of brandy.

On the tactical side it seems that people are looking for reasons to use all the gear they strap on and they tend to be with other people who have an equal amount of gear.

Survival is about doing more with less or often nothing. I don't know what tactical is about :) So yeah the HEST is the knife you need to carry with you at all times.
 
IMO - survival is preserving what you can as long as you can, tactical is expending what you can as fast as you can.

Both serve to save lives though, it just depends on the situation. I think the HEST would do just fine for either.
 
It was an OK review but he didn't really review the actual use of the knife. I've been looking at the knife a lot but I'm more interested in how well the knife actually functions in given tasks. The one thing I really, REALLY like about the knife is the pry end! But how well does it pry?? Is the point of the prying spike fine enough to take on small jobs like taking the back of a watch case off to cannibalize a broken watch? But overall a decent overview of the knife.
 
RYP said:
Survival is about doing more with less or often nothing. I don't know what tactical is about :) So yeah the HEST is the knife you need to carry with you at all times.
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Tactical is about painting things black and adding another rail to it.
 
"Tactical" is about fighting -- which is often opposed to surviving, and yet, sometimes necessary.

If you aren't planning to fight, then there's no need to go "tactical".
 
Over at the Black Flag Café we call the look "tactisexual". That black side look of cordura, velcro, zippers, cammo, pockets, sunglasses and "stuff" that turns any mundane object or person into a multi thousand dollar dudebro ;)))

The RAT DPx H•E•S•T is about doing more with less. By intelligently removing steel to create multi use benefits, the knife becomes lighter, more useful and helpful.

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O.D. Green was once "The New Black," but now ACU and other things are. Now O.D. Green just isn't "TactiCool" anymore, or "TactiSexual" as you refer to it. :D

I prefer O.D. Green because if you need camouflage, all you have to do is roll O.D. Green in the dirt and you have very, very good camouflage. Green is fairly neutral. Camouflage is very useful but it screams CRACKPOT! :D

At least it does now. Unless you're in Pound, Virginia or some place like that where RealTree and MossyOak are commonplace.

The H.E.S.T. is a really cool knife, very valuable tool. I should have my review of it up on my blog in a few days and on my website in the new year.
 
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