Hey Kevin! It Really SUCKS That We Honest Buyers & Sellers No Longer Have "TTT"!

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Hey Bud,
It's been awhile and as always, good job on your site! I always knew you would do good as you've been a straight ahead guy for the past decade +!

Okay, enough ass kissing! :)

Why did you come up with the silly "no more to the top" rule? It really limits buyers and sellers and as you probably know, those 2 categories generate as much income for you as all the others combined.

I was really fine with the old "3 day TTT" rule that we had here for years and I realize that there are always creeps that will take advantage of everything.

It really sucks though and maybe you could come up with something like; with a Gold Membership and above, you have TTT privileges?
 
Removing bumping greatly reduced the mod workload and made it a lot easier for everyone involved. In my opinion the change has been nothing but positive. People are still going to search for stuff they are looking for (and since search is free and works, that's great) and since stuff isn't constantly moving, if they browse through the listings it's a lot easier to find items.
 
Spark said:
Removing bumping greatly reduced the mod workload and made it a lot easier for everyone involved. In my opinion the change has been nothing but positive. People are still going to search for stuff they are looking for (and since search is free and works, that's great) and since stuff isn't constantly moving, if they browse through the listings it's a lot easier to find items.
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I understand where nowadays there are so many weasels who just look for ways to screw things up and what a shame! They live their miserable lives to make people who aren't, miserable like them!

Sorry Kevin but I disagree. I have sold and bought things here since the inception of BF and the BEST WAY to sell is to BTT once every several days or once a week.

Except for a few, folks will not go past prior 3-4 pages or even search for an item even though it's available and they won't search if their life depended on it!

I have offered stuff for sale here since 1998 and once my sale thread has been buried 3-4 pages back, it's dead! The only way I've sold my items has been to bring it TTT a few times a month and suddenly, it's sold!

I don't think I will renew my Gold subscription and that's a shame after all these years. I know I'm making a big deal of this but I am!

Bringing something as insignificant as TTT to some, is silly but it's the deciding factor for me to finally leave.

It's been a good ride Kevin!
 
I'm not a dealer and sell a knife or two a month. There is no question in my mind that the new bumping rules have made it a lot harder. I don't think people search. They browse. It takes me significantly longer to sell an item.

I will continue to pay for a Gold Membership for a number of reasons, but it is harder to sell here than it used to be and I can see people dropping out.

I might also add that I do some trading on a few other sites, like Watchuseek, which has higher traffic than BladeForums, and bumping a thread is allowed there. It doesn't seem to be an issue for the administrators.
 
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I guess I'm in the minority--and I've certainly been here a lot shorter time then you all--but I've greatly enjoyed the no bumping. At first I thought I would hate it because I wouldn't know when prices were lowered of knives I was interested in. I came to realize it was easier to follow the threads of the knives I was interested in than wade through the constant bumps of a huge number of threads, and when I have time to scroll through the exchange, I don't have to try to sort through older threads I've already seen.

The only problem I see is a lot of people edit their threads to blank, then repost the item in a new thread so as to skirt the inability to bump and the rule requiring waiting two weeks before reposting an item. It seems that no matter the system, people will nefariously break rules.
 
I understand the newer BTT rule, but I wish we could repost sooner than 2 weeks. IMO, 7 days seems fair. I'm sure there are valid reasons for the current rule, but this is just my .02

I will continue to renew my Gold every year regardless.
 
I'm all about Bladeforums, love it here, but thought I'd also add my own take on this- it's made things harder for me as a knifemaker to sell items. I'll back up that statement about sales threads older than 3-4 days just going stale. I've been trying to deal with this by just having more knives on hand, but it doesn't really suffice.

Just my $.02, thanks for all you admins do.
 
Based on my experience selling, once it is a couple pages back it is not receiving any attention.
Before if you dropped your price, people would be enticed to buy a knife they might not normally buy, due to the great pricing.
Now if you drop your price, unless someone is searching for that exact knife they will not see the price, and be enticed to buy.

When I shop, I glance through the first page or two, and see if anything interests me and if the price is good enough for a purchase.
I purchased my knifemaker membership, strictly to sell the wallets I invented, after they went to the third page I don't get much interest.
I do realize they aren't for everyone and possibly anyone who would be interested already purchased.

Is there a better solution?
Could a feature be put in place like the search feature block, or pm block? That blocks bumps until after a given amount of time.

I guess it would probably be hard to write code or whatever, that would keep everyone but the OP from bumping, and keep the OP from bumping until the given time limit.

I know on another forum, only the OP can post in their sales post. If you did that, then set a time limit on posts it could work.

And like the others say, Bladeforums is great, thanks for making it that way!

Edited to add, even a weekly bump would be nice
 
I admit it seems a little harder to sell a knife but in the wrong run it's much more fair and will work better. BUT . . there needs to be a few changes to the rules 1. 2 weeks is too long. 1 week or even 4 days would be a better time to wait before being allowed to repost. 2. Either sellers must be allowed more than one active thread (for different knives being sold) or they must be allowed to repost when they have another knife to sell. 3. In order for the search to be useful it must become mandatory that once your knife is sold you change the title to 'sold' and lock the thread. i waste a huge amount of time looking at threads with knives that have already ben sold. This would be a fairly easy rule to enforce and would make the system a lot better for buyers and sellers alike.

Not tryin to tell you what to do mods, just giving my 2 cordobas

cheers,

father
 
fatherhudson said:
2. Either sellers must be allowed more than one active thread (for different knives being sold) or they must be allowed to repost when they have another knife to sell.
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You can only start one thread in a given Exchange forum per day. But if you have a new knife to sell, you can post it in its own thread the next day.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
You can only start one thread in a given Exchange forum per day. But if you have a new knife to sell, you can post it in its own thread the next day.
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Esav, he and I just had that discussion via PM. He understands the rules at this point.
 
Also, members have been advised, when they ask, to go into their user options, and select the 'sort newest posts on top' option, which does exactly that.

It works for me, and should work for you as well.

Try it!
 
I'm glad I checked this thread. I was familiar with the old 72-hour bump rule, but when I checked the new rules I saw no mention of any bump rule and I had seen a couple of ads moving back to the top fairly frequently. Would someone be kind enough to point out the specific line in the rules that says "no bumping?" I see the one that says only one thread per day, but I seem to be reading right past the "no bump" stipulation. Sorry for the bother, and thanks for the help.
 
popedandy said:
I'm glad I checked this thread. I was familiar with the old 72-hour bump rule, but when I checked the new rules I saw no mention of any bump rule and I had seen a couple of ads moving back to the top fairly frequently. Would someone be kind enough to point out the specific line in the rules that says "no bumping?" I see the one that says only one thread per day, but I seem to be reading right past the "no bump" stipulation. Sorry for the bother, and thanks for the help.
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Nothing happens if you try and bump your thread unless you sort the view by newest post. Threads are now by default set to appear chronologically, as noted by post 13 above. The no bumping rule was changed because some folks were unable to help themselves and pushed everyone else's thread to the second page.
 
Ahhhh, that makes sense now. I usually sort by the time of the latest post, so that's why I didn't notice. Thanks for the clarification, gentlemen.
 
Maybe its been brought up in some of the other discussions but I am a member on another forum that has a pretty cool bumping system. The original poster can only reply to a thread after 24 hours (Im sure the time can be adjusted) have past. If the OP attempts a reply (bump) the system denies with a warning sign giving the amount of hours left before he/she can reply. This gives the ability for "TTT" but with an automated control that doesn't create more work for the mods. Not sure if thats even possible on this board but its just an idea.
 
jball1125 said:
Maybe its been brought up in some of the other discussions but I am a member on another forum that has a pretty cool bumping system. The original poster can only reply to a thread after 24 hours (Im sure the time can be adjusted) have past. If the OP attempts a reply (bump) the system denies with a warning sign giving the amount of hours left before he/she can reply. This gives the ability for "TTT" but with an automated control that doesn't create more work for the mods. Not sure if thats even possible on this board but its just an idea.
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Do they use the same software? V Bulletin?
 
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