Les Robertson
BANNED
- Joined
- Oct 10, 1998
- Messages
- 3,565
Kevin,
I can safely say that I think "you don't get it". Why did you allow YOUR membership to abuse Gus to the point that he felt it necessary to resign. Why didn't you step in when this was going on.
Kevin, you are the reason that Gus resigned. You did nothing (within the view of those in the room) to stop what was going on.
Kevin, if the moderator is being abused, isn't it your job to step in and help them? Where were you?
Additionally, what you don't get is, that your lack of support for your moderators and willingness to set standars impacts in two ways.
First, do you really think you will readily be able to find a replacement for Gus? You put him in there with Howard Faltz and KnifeArt. These two moderators, seldom if ever contributed to the room in a moderator position. It was always left to Gus. He did this neither for money or fame, he did this because of his passion for custom knives. His reward...you let YOUR membership abuse him to the point he felt it necessary to resign.
Second, your lack of support and loyalty to your moderators impacts on others who post here.
Kevin as a full time custom knife dealer, I will talk to more custom knife buyers, collectors, dealers and makers in week than you will in a year...because it is my job. I have received a lot of feedback from these people. Many of these well known custom knife people expressed the following to me.
They only lurk now and read what is written. Because they don't want to get into an arguement with some no name 14 year old kid who is on his mommy's computer. Or the guy I got into an arguement with here who was recommending custom knives and finally admitted he had never even held a custom knife.
Rarely check her anymore.
Don't ever come back.
Kevin, this is something constructive. I am telling you that you are not only losing members. You are losing the expertise that draws many people to this custom knife forum.
Ok Kevin, Ill take your word that it is impossible to get people to use their real names. How about we split the difference. Every member starting 1 week from today is, at a minimium, is requried to list their valid email in their profile. Being the software wizard you are, you can probably make that happen when they register. As you have to received a valid email from the individual so you can send them their password.
As time goes on, everyone will have to comply or they will not be allowed on BF. If we as members find someone with a non-existant email or invalid email. You suspend their ability to post on BF until such time as they comply. If they don't want to comply, then it is probably in the best interest of Bladeforums not to have them back.
Yes, you will lose some membership, but are anonymous trolls the kind of members you really want to have here?.
Kevin, don't use the "Internet is anonymous" BS here. This is your forum now. The ISP for web sites didnt work out for you, you are no longer using banner advertsing, all the dealers have left, well almost
. So you should no longer be concerned with having the highest number. You should be going for quality not quantity.
If that is too much trouble, then make the custom forum "password protected", like Whine and Cheese used to be. The only stipulation for a password is that you list at a miniumum your email address.
That being said, if what I propose costs money then charge a annual $5 fee to be a member/with posting privilages. Note, this is only for the custom knife forum. This should cover whatever costs associated with pass word protecting Custom Knife Forums.
You may be thinking, this will keep people away from the forum. No, they can read all they want. However, if they want to post or repspond to a post, they have to pay the $5.00 anual fee for that.
I know you are probably a little gun shy about asking for money right now.
But, I will put my money where my mouth is and send the first $5.00 for a room that we only discuss custom knives in. That is free of the anonymous "members" who snipe without fear of retribution.
Kevin, you should know enough that every single person on this forum and elsewhere who is self-employed. By the nature of their self-employment puts their "money where their mouth is" every day. I am surprised that you would openly insult all the self-employed members of Bladeforums like that.
As for me putting my money where my mouth is Kevin, your memory is short. Kevin, who was the only custom knife dealer/maker/collector in the world, to spend the money to get their own forum on BF. Let me refresh your memory....ME.
Blues, don't be to quick to close this. This is for your benefit as well. We will hate to see you resign 6 months from now.
I can safely say that I think "you don't get it". Why did you allow YOUR membership to abuse Gus to the point that he felt it necessary to resign. Why didn't you step in when this was going on.
Kevin, you are the reason that Gus resigned. You did nothing (within the view of those in the room) to stop what was going on.
Kevin, if the moderator is being abused, isn't it your job to step in and help them? Where were you?
Additionally, what you don't get is, that your lack of support for your moderators and willingness to set standars impacts in two ways.
First, do you really think you will readily be able to find a replacement for Gus? You put him in there with Howard Faltz and KnifeArt. These two moderators, seldom if ever contributed to the room in a moderator position. It was always left to Gus. He did this neither for money or fame, he did this because of his passion for custom knives. His reward...you let YOUR membership abuse him to the point he felt it necessary to resign.
Second, your lack of support and loyalty to your moderators impacts on others who post here.
Kevin as a full time custom knife dealer, I will talk to more custom knife buyers, collectors, dealers and makers in week than you will in a year...because it is my job. I have received a lot of feedback from these people. Many of these well known custom knife people expressed the following to me.
They only lurk now and read what is written. Because they don't want to get into an arguement with some no name 14 year old kid who is on his mommy's computer. Or the guy I got into an arguement with here who was recommending custom knives and finally admitted he had never even held a custom knife.
Rarely check her anymore.
Don't ever come back.
Kevin, this is something constructive. I am telling you that you are not only losing members. You are losing the expertise that draws many people to this custom knife forum.
Ok Kevin, Ill take your word that it is impossible to get people to use their real names. How about we split the difference. Every member starting 1 week from today is, at a minimium, is requried to list their valid email in their profile. Being the software wizard you are, you can probably make that happen when they register. As you have to received a valid email from the individual so you can send them their password.
As time goes on, everyone will have to comply or they will not be allowed on BF. If we as members find someone with a non-existant email or invalid email. You suspend their ability to post on BF until such time as they comply. If they don't want to comply, then it is probably in the best interest of Bladeforums not to have them back.
Yes, you will lose some membership, but are anonymous trolls the kind of members you really want to have here?.
Kevin, don't use the "Internet is anonymous" BS here. This is your forum now. The ISP for web sites didnt work out for you, you are no longer using banner advertsing, all the dealers have left, well almost

If that is too much trouble, then make the custom forum "password protected", like Whine and Cheese used to be. The only stipulation for a password is that you list at a miniumum your email address.
That being said, if what I propose costs money then charge a annual $5 fee to be a member/with posting privilages. Note, this is only for the custom knife forum. This should cover whatever costs associated with pass word protecting Custom Knife Forums.
You may be thinking, this will keep people away from the forum. No, they can read all they want. However, if they want to post or repspond to a post, they have to pay the $5.00 anual fee for that.
I know you are probably a little gun shy about asking for money right now.
But, I will put my money where my mouth is and send the first $5.00 for a room that we only discuss custom knives in. That is free of the anonymous "members" who snipe without fear of retribution.
Kevin, you should know enough that every single person on this forum and elsewhere who is self-employed. By the nature of their self-employment puts their "money where their mouth is" every day. I am surprised that you would openly insult all the self-employed members of Bladeforums like that.
As for me putting my money where my mouth is Kevin, your memory is short. Kevin, who was the only custom knife dealer/maker/collector in the world, to spend the money to get their own forum on BF. Let me refresh your memory....ME.
Blues, don't be to quick to close this. This is for your benefit as well. We will hate to see you resign 6 months from now.