Hey what do y'all think....crazy ???

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A while back I came up with the design below which I intended to be used as a Knife/Ulu and Hatchet. I designed it so that a stick could be lashed to the handle to give more leverage when chopping.

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Anyhow I'd forgot all about the design till yesterday when someone posted this that he'd had made by Bryan Breedan, very similar in application although different in looks.
Total length is 10.5 " Blade width is nearly 2.75" Actual blade length is about 3.75" made out of 0-1 .25" Stock.

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This caused me to go back to the drawing board and I came up with this hybrid,should enable quite reasonable chopping power but still can be choked up and used for finer knife work or as an Ulu....

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It's very similar to a larger version of the TOPS Trail Maker.

I think we have been looking at the idea of a chopping knife all wrong. In order for a knife to get anywhere close to a hatchet in performance we have been thinking that they need a 7",8" or even larger blade but all this does is spread the weight evenly down the knife rather than increase it at the head end where we want it. Take a look at a Tomahawk, they often only have a small 3" blade but chop pretty good due to the length of the handle. Therefore to increase our knifes chopping power we need to either increase the weight of the blade right at the front or increase the length of the handle to increase the leverage.My design might be even better with the handle an extra 1" longer but I wanted to keep as something that would be easy to carry rather than a big lump of steel that gets left behind at the campsite.
What do ya think ?
 
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Flair or hook the butt end so you can keep your hand secure and it looks like it would work well.
 
Would you want to use it for batoning as well? If so, should it have a little less angle at the tip?



Dave
 
Flair or hook the butt end so you can keep your hand secure and it looks like it would work well.

Yeah I did think about that but you don't have a hooked or flared end on a hatchet or small axe( not often anyway ) and they seem to stay put ok. I would obviously use a lanyard when chopping.
Also having anything but a straight end to the handle would limit how far back I could take a grip when chopping !
 
Would you want to use it for batoning as well? If so, should it have a little less angle at the tip?



Dave

Yeah I could maybe alter that a little, this is only my first draught so there are a few things to change....the file worked notches need moving forward a little to be of real use I think and I'll maybe make the handle section another inch longer !
 
How would grooves ground into the blade work for holding it when using it as an ulu?
Say something about the width of your thumb ground in about an inch from the top edge and running for 3 or 4 inches.



Dave
 
How would grooves ground into the blade work for holding it when using it as an ulu?
Say something about the width of your thumb ground in about an inch from the top edge and running for 3 or 4 inches.



Dave

The finger grooves wouldn't be for when I'm using it as an Ulu, just for thumb placement when using it as a knife !
 
The finger grooves wouldn't be for when I'm using it as an Ulu, just for thumb placement when using it as a knife !


I could have written my statement better. I understand about the thumb placement. This is separate from that.
I'm saying how about adding some grooves along the length of the blade to use when you are holding the tool like an ulu. Your whole thumb would fit into the groove and help with control.


Dave
 
I could have written my statement better. I understand about the thumb placement. This is separate from that.
I'm saying how about adding some grooves along the length of the blade to use when you are holding the tool like an ulu. Your whole thumb would fit into the groove and help with control.


Dave

I see what you are saying now, yeah that would maybe help but if I were to get John to make it the groove would prove tricky if not impossible.In reality I don't think I'd end up using it as an Ulu much anyway !
 
It was just a thought. I didn't know if you'd be using it often as an ulu or not. I know I wouldn't.
Pat Maisy on the head for me please.



Dave
 
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