HI and KHHI "Khuk-off"

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So, I've got a couple HI's and a couple of KHHI's. The KHHI's just got here after a 2-3 week wait.

My tests will include a Ganga Ram/Bonecutter and Sirupate by HI, and a Chitlangi and Service No. 1 by the Khukuri house. I omitted the Sarco from the test. It is just..Garbage.


Sorry about the crappy picture. I intend to take better ones and include some cut tests in tomorrow's daylight. I currently don't have the Ganga Ram, as I let a friend borrow it. I fear I may not get it back.

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First impressions:

Both brands had a very beautiful finish. All mirror shine with everything nicely fitted. All except for the Ganga Ram came paper-cutting sharp. Both the KH Chitlangi and the HI Sirupate did have some slight issues. The end butt of the Sirupate will rotate a bit from the pommel, leaving a sharp edge, and the Chitlangi pommel came damaged. It looks like shipping damage. Can probably remedy both with a bit of epoxy, but damn.

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The Chitlangi had very beautiful engraving and inlay work. Actually better quality than the Sirupate. KH engraved my name in both free of charge. On the HI and KH, the engraving of western characters isn't very well done. The Nepalese characters on the HI are beautiful though.

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The Feel

The Sirupate has a wonderful feel to the handle. It feels well balanced. Lively, but with a sense of heft. The Chitlangi has this as well, but it seems a bit lighter, at the cost of the handle being a little thinner and less comfortable. It may be better after I fix it. This is rather a moot point though. Both have a wonderful lively feel to them. The Ganga Ram and Service No. 1 don't feel as lively in my hand. They feel more like tools, wheras the former feel more like weapons. If I needed a weapon, I'd probably go with the Chitlangi because of the fullers and slightly quicker handling, plus the looser draw from the scabbard prevents hang-ups. The Service issue and Ganga Ram have decent handles, but nowhere as comfortable as the other two.

The Sirupate is the best mixture between weapon and tool. The Ganga Ram is all workhorse. Thick spine, full tang, not a pretty glossy finish. The Chitlangi has the thinnest spine, and seems like a good defensive tool that will still do working tasks, but I'd feel bad because it's so pretty. The Service No. 1 is a pretty good compromise between the Sirupate and Ganga Ram. The Ganga Ram is probably going to get snagged by my friend, which helps me slightly in deciding which I want to carry and which I want to keep around the ranch. Im thinking the Service No. 1 is going to end up in my car trunk survival kit, the Chitlangi next to my bed, and the Sirupate on my belt, with those two rotating duties depending on how I see fit. I do like my name being engraved in the blades of the KH, but the quality of it isn't that great, as I mentioned before.



The Sheath

I've heard some questionable things about the KH sheath's being sub-par. I dunno though. The Chitlangi sheath is slightly better done than the HI Sirupate, but slightly looser fit. The Sirupate has the perfect amount of squeeze, and is well-constructed. The Service Issue has the best Sheath of the entire lot, actually. The belt loop is very meatily attached, the fit is perfect, and the Karda/Chakmak are nice and snug. Also, the brass point isn't as sharp on it. Which leads me to the next section.


Karda and Chakmak

The Sirupate and Chitlangi have the nicest K&C. The HI Chakmak is nicer I think. The ones that came with the Service Issue and Ganga Ram are so-so. Kind of flimsy by comparison, shorter handles, not as pretty of materials. This isn't entirely important to me. The Karda for all came razor-sharp.



The Service

I have no complaints about either company. Yangdu was polite and prompt, and I had my blades the next day. KH had no problem with me revising my order at the last minute. However the shipping is slow, and my handle got chipped. Baw. Pricewise, I might have been just as well off buying a blem Chitlangi from HI.




In Closing

The craftsmanship is excellent on all. As noted, they both have some pros and cons. The KH did have a slightly lower price, with a small dip in quality. The price difference was minimal. After shipping the Chitlangi was about $80, the Service issue about $60, The Sirupate about $100, and the Ganga Ram about $90. I'd say they are both fantastic, beautiful, astute works of art. However, with the few bucks extra you pitch to HI, you get a slightly better fit and finish, and the guarantee of an undamaged and promptly delivered product.



Stay tuned..More to come.
 
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Looking froward to reading more, and yes, more pics please!!! :D

I bought several khukuris from KHHI and KHT last year, including a version of the Chitlange. Of all, I liked the Chitlange the best. I did a brief write-up with pics on another forum, hope mods don't mind me posting link, please feel free to delete if I'm crossing lines: http://forum.ramanon.com/showthread.php?t=73856&highlight=khhi

Thank you! :)
 
I got one of their Bodyguard Ang Khola's a while back (Called the Ghurke). I enjoy it quite a bit, though I do plan to get myself a nice CAK from HI.

I like the light weight and personal arms feel of the khukuri, but it's definitely not a traditional use khukuri, as for me it will be my official service knife. I'm sure if the Kami's here made something similar (though it'd be pretty awesome to have a thicker blade) I would own it immediately...
 
If I may offer a piece of advice? Hold on to the kukris for at least a little while before you give one away. Clean them, hold them, sharpen them and of course "use" them. Each will shine in different areas and only time will tell which ones will actually get used and which ones will stay in the drawer. I highly doubt you will find a better working tool than your Ganga Ram and [if] you actually intend to do regular chopping with one, you will kick yourself in the butt if you get rid of it. (just like the country song, "don't ask me how I know") Obviously, the longer weapons will end up by the bed so they can fulfill their ultimate role, if needed. God willing, hopefully they will never be needed. The Service No 1 is a great choice for a vehicle/survival kukri. When needed in a pinch, it will do anything you ask of it and more. That is a very very under-rated kukri that will grow on you more and more with use.

Another thing that may change; you may end up liking the "not so perfect" inscription more and more as time goes by. When you show it to people they will say things like, "wow that was really made for "you"" and "you can tell this was made by hand [because] the writing wasn't done by any machine!"

As you can read on this forum, many of the people that have several kukris actually get to know the kamis and how they make their blades. Some are known for hardness of the edge, others for the overall balance of the kukri and still others for their handles. That's the beauty of the real hand made Nepalese kukri vs. the store bought brands, its personal.

Good luck with all of them.
Bill
Virginia
 
STA94, I read that post in my initial search. I really found the Chitlange to be the most beautiful of the lot. Your post is actually what inspired me to pick it. I didn't give one away! I let a friend handle it, and well...My Ganga Ram is cheating on me. :(

Guess that one is really calling to him. I don't mind, he is a good friend. :)


I really can't decide, I love them all. I'd take them into bed to sleep with me if it weren't so dangerous.


Got a glamour shot of em.





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slingadeski, good to know that post of mine helped you with your khukuri decision-making. :)

Nice pic of the three, now let's see your Ganga Ram as well, huh?! :D
 
Diference between khukuri house kukri made for tourists and export, and what is actualy used in Nepal (Part1/3) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jty3cTV-DuE

Hi coupchoux, thanks for posting that video. I saw it on Simon's site some time ago. Good stuff and he brings up some good points, mainly that a lot of the shiny khukuris and related blades marketed by many of the shops in Kathmandu, etc. aren't exactly what the villagers in Nepal use on a daily basis - their everyday khuks and knives are a bit different than these, some more so than others.

Then again, I guess we cannot totally discount these newer blades (atleast the well-made ones vs. the total touristy cr@p) and have to take them for what they are - modern versions aimed at the tourist & overseas market. :)
 
Hi coupchoux, thanks for posting that video. I saw it on Simon's site some time ago. Good stuff and he brings up some good points, mainly that a lot of the shiny khukuris and related blades marketed by many of the shops in Kathmandu, etc. aren't exactly what the villagers in Nepal use on a daily basis - their everyday khuks and knives are a bit different than these, some more so than others.

Then again, I guess we cannot totally discount these newer blades (atleast the well-made ones vs. the total touristy cr@p) and have to take them for what they are - modern versions aimed at the tourist & overseas market. :)

Hi,

Sincerely, I don't know what to think...The best would be to go to Nepal and Tibet to see by ourselves.
 
Hi,

Sincerely, I don't know what to think...The best would be to go to Nepal and Tibet to see by ourselves.

:) :) Actually I'm pretty close to those places right now. Don't think a trip to Tibet is happening anytime soon, but Nepal may be possible, hopefully before I return to the US, fingers crossed! :)
 
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