HI Chakram?

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Does anyone know if HI has ever offered a Nepalese version of the Sikh Chakram? For those who do not know what a chakram is, it is a Sikh ranged weapon in the shape of a sharpened ring of metal, made in a aerodynamic profile to make it fly similar to an Aerobie®. This may prove to be quite a challenge to the kamis but I'm certain that they would be up to the challenge. Typically the chakram ranges from about 6" to 12" in size from what I've seen. I have found websites detailing the profile and aerofoils needed for a successful chakram and if the kamis are interested in tackling some of these I would be happy to share the url with Yangdu. I think these could be very beautiful pieces for HI to offer in the future. What are your thoughts on this?

Yours,
Jack
 
Wolf_1989 said:
They'd make it half an inch thick and you could stick it into an engine block.

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and it'd be able to chop trees with a good hurl... and knock out large animals :D

but despite the kamis' reputation for making overbuilt knives and kukris, I think they can definitely make a more slender, finesse-ful object if need be. Issue is... have they made a chakram in their life-times? It may take several forgings and experiments to get it right.

I know Punjabi and Udaipur blacksmiths have it down due to the Sikh influence in the area and an active weapons making tradition that lives on, primarily specializing in Mughal and Sikh stuff, often with damascus or koftgari...



What do you plan to have a chakram for by the way? Display? Sikh re-enactment? Leisurely target practice? ....pretending to be Xena when no one is looking :eek:
 
Nicholas said:
Xena carried one of those, if I recall. I have no idea if HI's ever offered one.
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Yes Xena carried one but like all things Hollywood, it's usage was full of fallacies.

They'd make it half an inch thick and you could stick it into an engine block.
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What would be wrong with that? I would think engine block penetration would be a great benchmark test. :)

What do you plan to have a chakram for by the way? Display? Sikh re-enactment? Leisurely target practice? ....pretending to be Xena when no one is looking
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Well, if I told you, I'd have to .......

seriously though, I enjoy collecting (and creating) primitive weapons and skills. I'm not a knife maker however so manufacturing one myself is still a long way off.
 
they are still an issue item in some regiments.

sikh light infantry wear them on their pagadi
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sikh akhali (nihangs) store them on their hats too.
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I liked Xena for the first few seasons while there was humor, some pretty good martial arts & scantily clad dangerous women. Later episodes were just too dark.
Uplander
 
Thanks for the great images! The Indian armed forces know how to do dress uniforms right!
 
Is that uniform really blue or Olive? The Sikh L.I. wears olive like rest of the regiments of the Indian Army.
 
Jack, great idea send me the link and I will send to shop manager
 
Hi All:

There is a section of the Sikhs (no more or less Sikh than the other Sikhs) called the Akali Nihangs, whose daily dress is predominantly blue - navy/royal blue - from the past times to the present. There are Sikhs in general who dress accordingly as well. They are as spiritually minded as the rest of the Sikh community, but take the martial aspect of Sikhism to its fullest, continuously practicing martial arts in its various forms and adopting new weaponry as it is developed within their tactics.

That "hat" is actually a peaked turban. The Sikhs wear the chakram for two purposes - armor when in the turban and weapon when thrown. If I recall, the Chakram does have a slight bend (something to do with an air foil profile - I am not too sure), so the idea of a Chakram being completely disk like and flat may be pretty, but not practical.

HI making chakrams - :cool::D:eek: :p:thumbup: - hope they are not 3/8" across the spine and weigh 1 lb. Throwing arms may be bruised - :eek:
 
Nihang Sikhs have always worn blue but no unit if the Indian Army wears blue in their cermonial uniform like the one in picture.
 
I was actually thinking about this the other day! Thanks for bringing it up Shadow. I would love to see HI make these!
 
The trick is to make it both light and strong, as well as being a good air foil in order to fly as intended, like a frisbee
I'm excited to see what will become of this.... and nice pun CSGraves, haha, I chuckled at that :)
 
Kronckew, thanks for the neat photo. It looks like Sikh Light Infantry to me, I'm pretty sure that's their ceremonial dress uniform ... or something along those lines. That's the Sikh LI badge of chakram topped by a katar on their turbans.

Check out the photo on the right of a Sikh LI soldier holding their regimental flag on this web site, I think it's their regimental web site - he's wearing the same blue uniform as the folks in Kronckew's photo above: http://sikhli.info/index.php/home

Same photo here - cover of book on their regimental history: http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20060309/chd3.jpg

There are two Sikh-only regiments in the Indian army, the Sikh Regiment and the Sikh Light Infantry. The Punjab Regiment also has a large number of Sikhs within its ranks. Both the Sikh Regt. and Sikh LI feature the chakram as part of their regimental insignia - full-size chakrams wedged in an angle on their turbans as part of their ceremonial/parade uniforms, as well as on their regimental insignias.
 
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