Hide away knife in CA

[lamepro]

i was wondering on the legality of carring a HAK utility (69$ version) concealed? and if i would run into any trouble? (in california, around bay area ish)

 

[MORIMOTOM]

probably not a good idea. it can meet the definition of metal knuckles or concealed dirk/dagger.

 

[lamepro]

probably not a good idea. it can meet the definition of metal knuckles or concealed dirk/dagger.

i can kinda get the metal knuckles ... but how is it a dirk/dagger... isnt that a doubled edged knife?

 

[MORIMOTOM]

i can kinda get the metal knuckles ... but how is it a dirk/dagger... isnt that a doubled edged knife?

not per ca law. a dirk/dagger is simply any knife "capable for ready use as a stabbing weapon." vague, i know, but it creates a catchall category for concealed items.

 

[lamepro]

not per ca law. a dirk/dagger is simply any knife "capable for ready use as a stabbing weapon." vague, i know, but it creates a catchall category for concealed items.

but..... that means a pencil is a dirk/dagger.... >.<

 

[Getahl]

or the knife on a Swisscard. I try to be as unobtrusive when out and about, and tend to stick to folders.

 

[glistam]

Dirk/dagger in the modern age mean fixed blade knives, though it refers to knives and not improvised items like screwdrivers. Yes, I know those are technically wrong definitions, but this is true in many states.

If arrested, you could probably argue in court that it's not a dagger or dirk. Bernard Levine has successfully done this repeatedly in CA for fixed-blade single edged knives (he argued that they were not daggers nor dirks). But knowing CA cops, they're not likely to be up to speed on such things.

 

[De4thStr1ke]

Pardon my ignorance, but here in Virginia you can get a concealed weapons permit. Most people get them for firearms, but they also apply to knives as well. Just a thought, and it might not even apply to CA laws.........

 

[lamepro]

Pardon my ignorance, but here in Virginia you can get a concealed weapons permit. Most people get them for firearms, but they also apply to knives as well. Just a thought, and it might not even apply to CA laws.........

i dunno about CA. and i think im too young to get one even if we did have them does any one know how old you would have to be to get a concealed weapon permit for a knife in cali?

 

[just10minreader]

i dunno about CA. and i think im too young to get one even if we did have them does any one know how old you would have to be to get a concealed weapon permit for a knife in cali?

Age limit is 21 (you can't buy a handgun before 21),
but AFAIK there is nothing in the law to allow for knives.
For more see http://californiaccw.org/

 

[dsvirsky]

Pardon my ignorance, but here in Virginia you can get a concealed weapons permit. Most people get them for firearms, but they also apply to knives as well. Just a thought, and it might not even apply to CA laws.........

Sorry, but VA concealed weapons permits do not apply to knives:

§ 18.2-308. Personal protection; carrying concealed weapons; when lawful to carry.

D. Any person 21 years of age or older may apply in writing to the clerk of the circuit court of the county or city in which he resides, or if he is a member of the United States Armed Forces, the county or city in which he is domiciled, for a permit to carry a concealed handgun. (emphasis added)

 

[YayILikePie]

From what I can tell, in California, getting a CCW is a pretty hard thing to do.

 

[lamepro]

well thanks for all the help. guess ill just save the money for somthing else

 

[De4thStr1ke]

Sorry, but VA concealed weapons permits do not apply to knives:

§ 18.2-308. Personal protection; carrying concealed weapons; when lawful to carry.

D. Any person 21 years of age or older may apply in writing to the clerk of the circuit court of the county or city in which he resides, or if he is a member of the United States Armed Forces, the county or city in which he is domiciled, for a permit to carry a concealed handgun. (emphasis added)

I'm not arguing that the letter of the law is what you said, that much is obvious. But I have talked to several police officers, workers at local gun shops, and several different people at the local courthouse, and they all have told me the same thing. While the law only mentions handguns, the permit also applies to knives as well. And regardless of how the law is written, if the courts say it applies that's good enough for me......

 

[Kodiak7]

From what I can tell, in California, getting a CCW is a pretty hard thing to do.

Not if you live in Bakersfield or Fresno.

 

[Eazy_tom]

Pardon my ignorance, but here in Virginia you can get a concealed weapons permit. Most people get them for firearms, but they also apply to knives as well. Just a thought, and it might not even apply to CA laws.........

Its nearly impossible to get a CCW permit in California.