hideaway vs mod scorpion

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hkbladelawhk

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why would yall pay 180 for a hideaway knife when u can get a mod scorpion neck knife for 60 bucks made of 154 cm...same damn thing...isn't it?
 
I'm confused. I thought the hideaway in 440C was only $69 and in Bos heat treated S30V was $149. Where does the $180 figure come from or am I looking at the wrong sorts of Hideaway knives.
 
well, they are not at all the same thing. Where are you getting that they are the same?

HAK:
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Mod scorpion:
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and since the utility HAKs are 69 bucks, and custom made to measure, and the scorpion is 79+, and not custom, I do not see how they are the same thing.
 
Not the same thing. Not even close, the most innovative feature of the HAK -- the capsule -- is not present on the Scorpion. Did the fact that the Scorpion is skeletonized confuse you?
 
the HAK 2 finger custom fitted capsule allows you to use your knife hand to grasp, while still maintaining a hold of the knife. The HAK is also smaller in size, thus lighter and more concealable.

I am anxiously awaiting my 1st Utility HAK. If I like it, then I will be ordering a custom model in Titanium so I don't have to worry about rust.
 
A HAK is the best neck knife. Period. And my roommate called me a moron for paying $150 for my custom ones, but ended up liking it so much I found him a utility model for only $45. He loves the things as much as I do now.
Halfneck said:
I am anxiously awaiting my 1st Utility HAK. If I like it, then I will be ordering a custom model in Titanium so I don't have to worry about rust.
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You will like it, and you will order a Ti model. I started with a used Ti, and ended up buying a couple more in S30V. You can never have too many.
 
Isn't the scorpion technically a dagger too since it has the plain edge on one side and the serrations on the other?
 
When did they change to 440C? I know the first batch were 440A as per the website, but am finding no documentation of the change.

Thanks
Desmond
 
Pyromancer said:
When did they change to 440C? I know the first batch were 440A as per the website, but am finding no documentation of the change.

Thanks
Desmond
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they changed for the second batch.
 
Well, I meant they are both neck knives....I looked at the HAK site, and didnt see the utility price....so, you guys obviously like the HAK? Worth 180? Legal to carry concealed in any jurisdiction?

I know its legal in az, just thinking bout travel...maybe I'll have to invest in one to see thw fuss...

Is the S30V really that much better than 440C? What about the Ti models, I've heard Ti is useless unless its a diving knife...(previous forums)

http://www.hideawayknife.com/model.php (ony models I see are 140 and up....:-( )
 
hkbladelawhk said:
Well, I meant they are both neck knives....I looked at the HAK site, and didnt see the utility price....so, you guys obviously like the HAK? Worth 180? Legal to carry concealed in any jurisdiction?

I know its legal in az, just thinking bout travel...maybe I'll have to invest in one to see thw fuss...

Is the S30V really that much better than 440C? What about the Ti models, I've heard Ti is useless unless its a diving knife...(previous forums)
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The way you hold the scorpion is like you would hold a steak knife, or a pocket knife, or generally any knife. The handle goes in your palm, and you wrap your fingers around it.

The way you hold a HAK is you put your first two fingers through the handle, and make a fist. Your fingers swell up enough to make a good fit. With this kind of grip, you can open your hand, to pick up a ball or a hotdog, and your knife is still there, or you can hold a flashlight and your HAK at the same time, or you can cut something, write on it with a marker, and then cut some more, all without putting the knife down. These reasons are why HAK's are so popular.
 
Go to "I want one" on the website and you will see a full listing of products and prices including the $69 utility 440C hideaways.
 
wow, i feel smart...why didnt I think of that...

is S30V that much better than 440C? Whats so bad about the Utility Hideaway compared to the others?
 
It is a great website and very comprehensive. It contains heaps of information but it does take some time to read it all. The main problem I found was that my dialup internet connection could not handle all the photos. Rarely did more than half of them appear on my computer which did make it somewhat difficult to make choices when ordering - but perhaps that's more a problem of living in rural Australia than the website. I found that without all the photos, it was really painful trying to work out which sheathing methods to order. I recently ordered both the S30V and 440C models but they have not reached me yet so I can't advise you in the differences between the two.
 
Where do you keep gettin the cost as being 180$? I haven't seen one that expensive. The ones i've looked at were 150$-70$.
 
hkbladelawhk said:
its 70-200 with Ti...
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pretty sure a new Ti model will set you back 249 actually. Got a used one for 150 though :rolleyes:

Just sold a tanto Ti one for 150 as well, and saw another Ti model sell for 160. Keep your eyes open.
 
The only problem with buying them second hand is that your finger size must be the same size as the person you are buying them from. Each HAK is a custom made size for each individual. I've seen a few for sale that I would have liked to have bought but not in my 4.75 inch finger size.:(
 
I just purchased a Midnight Claw HAK made of S30V from Frontsight. Hasn't even arrived yet. The price was $169. With shipping it came to $181.50. Then I added paracord wrap as an option, which added another $15 to the price. Frontsight considers her knives custom because you must measure the index and middle fingers of the hand you intend to hold the knife in, a computer program is then used to size the lozenge-shaped hole into which you insert your fingers, and then one or another knifemaker who collaborates with Frontsight actually makes the knife to your specification.

As for the HAK vs the Scorpion, as others have mentioned, a Scorpion is held with either a standard or reverse grip. You insert two fingers into the HAK hole. This is supposed to give a very secure grip so the knife can't be knocked or pulled out of your hand. It is also supposed to give you very precise knife maneuverability. And you can do other things with your knife hand with your fingers in the HAK.

But for me, though, the HAK has another important advantage over the Scorpion. In many states--I live in one of them--it is illegal to carry a dagger or dagger-like knife. It is also illegal to carry a knife with a blade longer than 2 inches. The compact size of the HAK means I could actually use it in a self-defense situation without ending up in jail myself--always a nice plus.

One more thing: With the Scorpion and most other knives, you always must think when you get dressed: Mmm, should I carry this today or not? Not so with the HAK. You can put it on a keyring and forget about until you need it. Unless you're in the habit of leaving home without your keys, you always have protection with you without having to think about it.
 
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