Hinderer xm-24 detent woes.

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Hello fellow BladeForum members,

Several months back I purchased an xm-24 from another BF member. The post description for that knife read as follows: "XM 24 Non flipper Slicer black scale in great shape factory sharp edge no wear to speak of. This is a great knife and hard to find non flipper." After receiving the knife I immediately noticed a faint squeaking noise and could not determine the cause so I disassembled the knife, cleaned, oiled, reassembled and still the noise continued. After contacting the seller and explaining the noise issue and that I wasn't sure I felt comfortable keeping the knife in its current condition, I was messaged back and told to put a drop of lube on the detent. The seller also asked why I would be uncomfortable with the sale and told me there was absolutely nothing wrong with the knife. I decided to not continue to communicate with the seller, figuring that if I tried to return the knife the seller would bitch about me having damaged the knife and then having to deal with a PayPal struggle trying to get my money back. Well, the squeak never went away and actually got worse. Finally, I decided to disassemble again, because I and my wife were getting really tired of hearing the squeak each evening when we would watch Wheel of Fortune while I habitually opened and closed the knife. Upon closer inspection, the detent ball was not moving at all and had been rubbed/worn down, thus causing the constant squeaking. To add insult to injury, the lockup of the knife appears to be at 50% and I didn't know this was more indicative of a well-used/older knife until just this week. This lack of knowledge is simply that and it wasn't until I became more educated on the topic and glanced at the lockup that I made the connection. Here is the best picture I could get of the issue.

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I type all this to not so much to complain, but to state that I am realizing a gold membership status and a few hundred posts on the forum do not equate to honesty. You can bet I won't be dealing with that seller anymore, and may not utilize the exchange due to this and various other issues. That being said, I cannot blast somebody's integrity without being honest about myself and would refer you to my own shortcomings.

Now that I've got that out of my system, the real issue I need the forums help with is trying to find out how to remove the detent ball, obtain a replacement ball, and get that tiny mother sucker back into the lockbar. I have searched, but have come up short. There is a decent video out there explaining the process on a Strider SNG, but the owner of that video suggests using a 1/16" metal punch to push out the ball and a replacement ball size of 5/64". Found the punch at Menards, but is too big for my XM. Also, I want to make sure I am ordering the right size ball bearings from Grainger. I am aware that I could send it into the Hinderer ranch, but am unwilling to park with my knife that long and would like to be able to take on this project/make an educational video myself. Any help/info would be appreciated!

Brian
 
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I strongly suggest sending it to Hinderer and let them look/repair the knife. Once you start using metal punches and stuff, they wont repair it. I know it's hard waiting but IMO it's the better option. As far as the lock bar, I bought a 2016 LE about 2 months ago brand new at it arrived at 50% lock up, which is normal.
 
Thanks for the feedback. You make a good point about the warranty issues of the xm. I will look into it.
 
I know it won't do much to ease your frustrations, however, not all hinderers have an early lock up. I have one that had a super super early lock up that had to have the lock side replaced and when it came back it was at 50-55%. Secondly the detent ball does not roll or move. It simply slides along the tang of the blade. Not 100% positive but I think the ball is ceramic much like that on a sebenza, a little flat worn on it will be normal in time. If the squeak persist try a very light coat of grease instead oil that will run off.
 
Send it in for warranty by no means should you attempt your self or you may have a 450+ dollar paperweight
 
I give Hinderers detent make-overs frequently and would be happy to help you get it fixed up. Shoot me a pm, I can install a fresh ceramic or steel detent for you and adjust the detent strength to where it's perfect for flipping =)
 
Both of my Hinderers have a flattened detent like that. I would put a bit of nano oil in the detent track and see if that helped before anything else.
 
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