Horizontal Forge Build - UPDATE

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I have four vertical forges of different sizes - and love them. I built my first one right at 18 years ago after seeing Don Fogg's forge at the Ashokan Seminar.
I had been using coal until then.
They do many things well, but nothing does everything well.
With some up-coming projects that might benefit from a horizontal forge I decided to add one to the arsenal.
Maybe something a person sees here can help them with their own ideas for their forge build.

 
Nice build! How long does it take to reach forge welding temps with all that mizzou?
 
Nice build! How long does it take to reach forge welding temps with all that mizzou?
"....all that mizzou?" ?? Is that a lot of Mizzou?
Honestly - I do not know. I've only lit it twice now, but it got VERY hot in only about 6-8 minutes.
I need to get it hooked up to my big tank.
I'm more interested in how low it will run.
I'll continue to do welding in my verticals.
 
50 lbs. seems like a lot but maybe not. I have a vertical for most of my welding but need a horizontal blown forge for making tomahawks so I don't have weld a handle on and then have to cut it off. My 2 burner venturi gets hot enough to weld if I run 13-15 psi so it isn't very efficient.
 
50 lbs. seems like a lot but maybe not. I have a vertical for most of my welding but need a horizontal blown forge for making tomahawks so I don't have weld a handle on and then have to cut it off. My 2 burner venturi gets hot enough to weld if I run 13-15 psi so it isn't very efficient.

That's why I made this one. For objects that just aren't friendly with the verticals.
Now I wish I had poured in a temp probe chase.
My buddy John Horrigan says his - upon which mine is designed - will burn steel like coal.
 
Impressive Karl! I wonder if there is a big temperature difference from the end to the middle to the front.
 
I always slit the pvc on one side lengthwise on the tablesaw and put a 3/8 or 1/2" strip of plywood between it. Tape it off and pull the strip out when the castable has set. Pvc pops right out.

I did pretty much the the same thing.

Using 3.5" and 6" PVC pipe tubes (makes a 4" chamber and 1" thick liner walls), temporarily screw each piece of PVC to a wooden board, place the board against the fence, and split the PVC pipes in half on the bandsaw.

The inner pieces get spaced with a 1/4" thick slat of plywood ripped to be the same width as the tube diameter. Place the slat between the cut pieces, making it a circle again (sand width as needed to get a pretty good fit), and run a wrap of masking tape on the top and bottom to make it stay together. Cover one end with duct tape. Don't go up the side more than 1/4".

The larger piece of PVC makes the outer casting shell. Hinge the pieces with duct tape and strap the outer shell shut with wraps of duct take around the top and bottom.Tape off the bottom with duct tape.

Set the inner tube in place using three pieces of dowel or wood strips as spacers. Push down to stick to the duct taped bottoms together. Remove spacers.

Pour Cast-o-lite 30 ( or whatever other castable refractory you have) and fill the space between the tubes. This prevents the refractory running out the bottom. Use your fingers to keep the top properly spaced.
When fully dry, peel off the duct tape on the bottoms, tap/pull out the spacer slat and pop the two halves out of the inside. Then take the outside pieces apart and let it dry for a week or more.

To cure the refractory, there are several ways. One is to set it on a turkey fryer and turn the flame on low. Let it run for half an hour, then turn up end for end for a second half hour. Turn up to high and repeat the half hour bakes.

Once cured, test fit to the forge shell using spacers the same way you kept the tubes spaced in pouring. Once aligned, mark the holes for burners and TC sheaths. Remove and drill the holes. The dry refractory drilles easily with a masonry bit. Clean up the holes with a round/half round file and chamfer the edges smooth.

Wrap tightly with the insulation wool using paracord or similar small cord to bind the wool tight, and slide into the shell. Once in place, pull the cord out slowly.

The rest is pretty much the same as any forge build.

TIP:
One really good trick is to get a ceramic burner tube off ebay. It is merely a ceramic tube, usually sold as alumina ceramic tubing (same thing the TC sheath is made of). One suitable for a forge burner port runs between $10 and $30, depending on your source. There was a fellow at Ashokan a few years back with a big box of 6"X2" tubes for something like $10 each. Make the burner mount pipe on the shell just big enough to slide the ceramic tube through. Install the burner port as normal, and slide the ceramic tube through the wool and refractory liner. The TC sheath should be mounted through a steel tube similarly. Use satanite on the inside to make a smooth seal. Any extra space from the outside can be packed with bits of refractory wool. Using this setup, you can run the burner farther back in the tube. Play with position and find the sweet spot. Stainless pipe burners are also a good idea. (I have titanium tubes that I haven't experimented with yet, but am curious how they will do.)
 
No, just one cut. Slightly expand the pvc with the strip. When pulling the strip out the pvc will return to smaller than its original diameter and will create enough room to pull out.
 
This is the blower from my smaller verticals that has worked OK for years with just the air flap. I have a gate valve on my large vertical so I put on on this now, as well.
I like how she purrs and seems very efficient. I'll be forging with it soon.
 
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