Horizontal grinder

ep3757

ep3757

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Hello to all members. As some of you may know I build vertical knife making grinders and now would like to come up with horizontal grinder. I would like to get as much input from knife makers as far as what they would like to see on one and and what would be really important to have on it. I would like to make it to take 2'' x 72'' belts to keep it simple. If you have any ideas or pictures of what you have built and would like to share them I would appreciate them. The idea that I have for this is to gather everyone's input and come up with a horizontal grinder that will perform really good and not to copy anyone's machine. I currently use a John LeBlanc horizontal grinder but do not wish to copy it. Here are some pictures of my horizontal grinder and the vertical grinder that I make to sell. Thanks in advance for your input.

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The coolest home built rig I ever saw was made to tilt over at 90 degrees and become an edge grinder. It was mounted near the end of the bench, and when tipped over ( on hinges) it dropped into an edge grinding table.

I think Bader makes a horizontal/vertical tilt mount for such purposes.
 
bladsmth said:
The coolest home built rig I ever saw was made to tilt over at 90 degrees and become an edge grinder. It was mounted near the end of the bench, and when tipped over ( on hinges) it dropped into an edge grinding table.

I think Bader makes a horizontal/vertical tilt mount for such purposes.
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I've been searching for photos of this with no luck, has anyone else got a pic of this ?

I thought moto-joe... Joe Caswell had this, but his site has changed
 
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HERE'S A LINK to my horizontal.

I too have a LeBlanc and don't really like it.
I like the 3 wheel design better as I can get into more places with it, and use any sized wheel I want.
I have a 1/8" wheel for this !!!

The JL tensioning system is overly complicated, and has already failed on me, prompting a re-build.

I have a 6" wheel coming, so the drive wheel can do double duty as a contact wheel.

This page wasn't created as a showcase of the grinder, but to give a buddy of mine some ideas when building his own.

Neat looking grinder you got there, I can see Johns influence in it.

 
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I've been searching for photos of this with no luck, has anyone else got a pic of this ?

I thought moto-joe... Joe Caswell had this, but his site has changed
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Haven't heard "moto-joe" in a while!:)
Here's a pic of mine:
 

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I will be in the market for a new grinder this coming spring. Can't wait to see some ideas develop here.
 
bladsmth said:
Yes, K&G sells the addapter plate.
It is 165.00. here is the link, but they don't have a photo.
http://www.knifeandgun.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BNNB3
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Can't see what theirs is like without pic, but if it's good, I'd rather buy it than spend the time and $ making one.
If you're going to make one, make it with heavy stock. You want this to be a stiff assembly.
Mine's mostly 1/4 inch, and the hinge is heavy DOM tubing, all welded to a steel table directly. It probably doesn't have to be that heavy, but I don't like flimsy tools. Mine's 12 years old now it works great. Crazy solid.

Still, dedicated machines are preferable if you have the room, IMO, because you can jump back and forth without messing with set-up.
 
Thanks to all for your input and hope to get some more. Here is the John LeBlanc grinder that I use. I must say it is a Cadilac. It has a lever for a brake that will stop the motor from turning and make a quick adjustment, the rests move up and down and allow you to use the full two inches of the belt which is really nice. Another thing that is really cool is that the unit can just sit on top of any bench with out modifing the bench and it is variable speed. It has a 1 1/2 hp motor. What do you guys think would be good as far as HP rating on the motor?

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so what is really useful on a horizontal grinder compared to say a kmg?.....do people really use it for that many purposes?.....sorry if it's a stupid question....ryan
 
These are pix of my bader3 on a tilting floor stand. In the background of one pic you can see my new to me 2hp 3ph motors for the bader.
 

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I didn't build this grinder but made some very useful mods to an old square wheel that wasn't seeing a lot of use. I basically remade the tooling arm. The small wheels cost about $8 each to make and I've yet to wear one out
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ryan9977 said:
so what is really useful on a horizontal grinder compared to say a kmg?.....do people really use it for that many purposes?.....sorry if it's a stupid question....ryan
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It is very usefull when you want to make a radius and you want it to be 90 degrees to the flats or sides. It is very useful for making folding knives.
 
Every single edge of every knife gets ground on a horizontal.

Especially finger notches, thumb grooves , etc...

I bet I have as much time per knife on the horizontal as the vertical, maybe more.

Almost everything a normal machine does, can be done on the horizontal,
Many of those operations are done easier, better, and faster.

I started with a LeBlanc like Enrique posted.
Quickly ran into limitations to my style of making, so I built a tooling arm.

Still not satisfied, I finally just designed my own.
The JL is an outstanding machine, and well built.
It is just a bit limiting to me as it has 4 wheels, and the wheels are not easily interchangeable.

I am debating selling the JL to fund another build or two...
 
Hey EP!

How's it going Guy?

I had a chance to give this grinder a good look at last years Hammer-in down at Johnny's Stouts place. Good Looking Grinder!

Mike
Maker
The Loveless Connection Knives
 
Hey ep, i really like the j.l. Grinder, the only problem i have is keeping the work plates perpendicular and square with the belt contact surface. Tp
 
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Hey ep, i really like the j.l. Grinder, the only problem i have is keeping the work plates perpendicular and square with the belt contact surface. Tp
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Your grinder needs a small modification and it will work just fine and will maintain it's position. If you call me or send me an email I will tell you how to do it.
 
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