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[richstag]

I came across this article this morning. I found it to be a very pleasurable read. I thought you all would agree. I know it is not Busse content, so I apologize if it is to "off topic", but I really thought you all would appreciate the article. Plus, I thought in some way we may be able to relate it to Busse? I hope you all find it interesting. Has Busse every made any knives in this fashion? I sure would love one like this from Busse.

Here it is in the form of quick pics:

 

[richstag]

 

[a.l.hare]

very cool

 

[GregS]

Cool! I always wondered how they did that scene from "Bodyguard":foot:, I have said too much...

 

[Last Visible Canary]

i think I would dissagree with mr. moran on the floating scarf being cut part. you can make some very, VERY thin and sharp knives now.

 

[Volk]

it sure is awesome but "after a 10 year wait"

I mean I've seen some people here complaining about 2 weeks.

 

[richstag]

very cool

That is what I thought.

Cool! I always wondered how they did that scene from "Bodyguard":foot:, I have said too much...

too much?

i think I would dissagree with mr. moran on the floating scarf being cut part. you can make some very, VERY thin and sharp knives now.

But basically permanately sharp?

it sure is awesome but "after a 10 year wait"

I mean I've seen some people here complaining about 2 weeks.

yeah and that was in 1979. I don't know anything about the man. Just thought this was an interesting article on knifemaking.

I also was curious what a Busse made like this would be like. Better/worse?

Honestly, I just went for a few hour walk with the ole' lady and the two dogs and put my CG ASH1 through some serious abuse and it still looks the same. And it is not dull.

Busse found a way to accomplish toughness/edge holding in their own way. Which is why I thought it could be related. Plus you don't have to worry about dying of old age waiting on your knife to be made

Furthermore, knife people like knives

 

[Last Visible Canary]

But basically permanately sharp?

yes and no. when you make something that sharp, you can square off the edge and it will act and work as though it is sharper then a freshly sharpened knife that is thicker or at a more obtuse angle, because it is able to concentrate more force on a smaller area, even in a blunted state.

it's like a really thin box cutter, even if it's totally blunted, it may still cut relatively well.

realistically to get a knife sharp enough to cut a floating scarf, say a silk one, you would make it a single purpose blade. the only use of such a knife beyond that one task would be meat cutting, and nothing else. the second you hit it on wood or anything solid it would either roll over over fracture, depending on the steel and the heat treat.

I'm just saying it can be done.

 

[Raymond1000]

William Francis Moran, Jr. 1925-2006

RIP

 

[gixxerman]

AWESOME read!! Thanks :thumbup::thumbup:

 

[richstag]

yes and no. when you make something that sharp, you can square off the edge and it will act and work as though it is sharper then a freshly sharpened knife that is thicker or at a more obtuse angle, because it is able to concentrate more force on a smaller area, even in a blunted state.

it's like a really thin box cutter, even if it's totally blunted, it may still cut relatively well.

realistically to get a knife sharp enough to cut a floating scarf, say a silk one, you would make it a single purpose blade. the only use of such a knife beyond that one task would be meat cutting, and nothing else. the second you hit it on wood or anything solid it would either roll over over fracture, depending on the steel and the heat treat.

I'm just saying it can be done.

I get what you were saying. I think his knives were sharp like you are saying, and due to the differential heat treat it was able to cut more than just soft material. Maybe I misread the article???

Oh, and I am not arguing, just conversing

William Francis Moran, Jr. 1925-2006

RIP

Thats sad to hear.

AWESOME read!! Thanks :thumbup::thumbup:

You are very welcome!!

 

[Last Visible Canary]

I get what you were saying. I think his knives were sharp like you are saying, and due to the differential heat treat it was able to cut more than just soft material. Maybe I misread the article???

Oh, and I am not arguing, just conversing

not quite what I meant. at the top of this photo:

mr. moran states that stock removal can't compare to forging. all of busse combat's knives save for one or two forged examples are done by stock removal, with cutters, grinders and sanders. maybe at the time the technology, technique, and steel options weren't up to par to bridge the gap between stock removal and forging, but most certainly is now.


I apologize for my initial post, mr. moran didn't state the comment about the floating feather and scarf - the author did, ralph reppert.

an example of how modern and not so modern technique have shown this to be (in my opinion, and most likely (never say never)) wrong is the guys who have posted on here who get their knives to a degree of sharpness that whittles hair. not cuts a hair in half, but cuts it into 4 or 5 pieces. take that knife, make it very thin, and you should be able to cut a feather in half. possibly not floating because the aim would be have to be crazy good, but if you hang the top from a string and cut upward with that kind of edge/knife, you should be able to cut the shaft without any additional force (like cutting downward would add the tension force of the string).

it would be impractical for a movie to attempt the real thing, but I believe that it could physically be done.

 

[richstag]

Last Visible Canary - I am with you on Busse having the technology/know how to make an incredible knife.

Not sure how they would compare with a knife like the ones mentioned in the article. Don't think I every personally will either.

I have seen the hair whittlers and have a few of my own. But, none of mine or the ones I have seen were made by William Francis Moran, Jr. 1925-2006

Anyhow, I guess we will not really be able to prove anything. That is unless you have one of his knives and could demonstrate? If so, that would be INCREDIBLE.

BTW, my grandfather recently passed away. This is an article that I found at his house. He always told me stories about the original samuri swords. Very interesting stuff. He actually had one.

I myself have never owned or used a knife made in this fashion so I found the information to be very interesting and it made me think of my grandfather. He was a very smart man. He always told me that he should have never sold his sword, but he needed the money when he moved here and had to.

I hope you enjoyed the informational article. That is all it was meant to be:thumbup:

 

[WVHILLS]

Cool article, I wonder if he was able to find a worthy apprentice???

 

[richstag]

Cool article, I wonder if he was able to find a worthy apprentice???

That is a very good question:thumbup: