How about such a knife?

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Chicahiro Ishida

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Imagine, a skelton 5" fixed blade knife.
Both handle and blade is about 5",and there is a pipe 5".When this pipe wrap handle, this pipe is good grip.When it slide to wrap blade,it is blade cover to carry safe.
I can manege to make lock system and pocket clip.

Yes,this is not compact as folder.
But,this is much more tough than any folder,as hard as full tounge fixed blade.And it can be clipped on cloth as spyderco type folder and open by only one action(slide the pipe blade to grip).
Fixed blade knives is very fast to draw,but it is difficult to replace.The reason why tactical folder is better than fixed blade is, on however bad condition, one-hand folder can be drawed and replaced.
But I can draw and replace this slide knife easy!

Do you know it have produced? or it is new idea?
I don't know!

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Chic Stone
 
From what I gather, it sounds like you're describing some kind of OTF (out the front) gravity knife. Is it like a fixxed blade that the "pipe" slides over the blade to "close" and slides over the handle in "open" position? Sounds interesting, but if it's a fixxed blade or a gravity knife, there may be legal implications in the US. I'm not sure what kind of knife laws there are in Japan...I guess you would have to check on that.

~Mitch
 
UW,

I don't know the "OTF (out the front) gravity knife".
It is only idea image.I think both "open" and "closed" position had better locked.
Not only opend by gravity,some action---.

In Japanese law, AT knives are all forbidden.Nothing about gravity open knives,I know.


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Chic Stone
 
Interesting idea;interesting caveat. Clearly it is the handle that slides, not the blade. The language of each statute and reg would have to be checked, but it doesn't sound too problematic. But where the law has tried to get at balisongs by a general description, the language probably would be a problem. And if you can "open" the knife by means of gravity alone, you'd violate most laws.
From a user's point of view, a similar question: how do you slide and lock the handle? Is it a two hand operation? I guess yes. And wouldn't you wind up holding the blade? You'd need a protrusion to hold onto, but then wouldn't you have to shift grips, even if you don't have to shift hands? Doesn't sound very fast, certainly not tactical. Maybe that's a good thing.
And how would you carry it? A clip? With such a broad handle, wouldn't the clip interfere with the grip? Just asking.

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That certainly sounds like an interesting idea. It could be a very cool knife, but I see two possible problems with it.

One problem could be its weight. People might not want to carry a knife like that because the pipe would add extra weight, although it would be extremely sturdy.

Another problem is that it could be regarded as a shobi-zue, which are illegal to posses in some states in America. The California Penal Code, for instance, defines a shobi-zue as "a staff, crutch, stick, rod or pole concealing a knife or blade within it which may be exposed by a flick of the wrist or by mechanichal action."
 
HJK,
I don't think it can be "opend(slide grip to blade)" gravity alone.I imagine spring tention stoping to open in Closed potision.It need some force to "open".
>how do you slide and lock the handle?
I imagine a groove blade to tongue,it is rail to slide grip.
For lock,I imagine to use the bucklock system.It is too difficult to say only word.
I think cover on backlock release,not to close accidential.Open cover,and release lock maycan be done one-hand.
>Is it a two hand operation?
No! it should be one hand operation.I think it possible.
>And how would you carry it? A clip?
Yes! if a clip on (sliding)handle or on tongue (opening, clip is under glip),it is easy to carry,though not so easy to consealed carry.

Thank you for your interest to my idea.

cerulean,

About weight, I said pipe to explain easy,but I imagine light Titan and G-10 box like grip.
It is the same weight to full-tongue fixed blade knife.
Yes,it is not so light,but much more tough than any folder.People who want tough knife likes it,I think.

Law, it is so hard ploblem.I did'nt think about it!

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Chic Stone
 
The picture I'm getting is an ASP with the hollow sections replaced with a blade. Pretty neat idea. How about a diagram?


Jason
 
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