How about those Mousies...?!!

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i was modding a bunch of CS Trail Hawks the other day, and thinking of this teeny-tiny little pocket hatchet i saw as an artifact in the Alamo last year, when i was visiting Texas-by-God.

the caption under the little hawk read that it was a common thing back in those times to have one in your pocket - the whole thing couldn't've been more than 8 or ten inches - which makes sense, since steel was probably fairly rare, and the mouse hawks took less steel than a big knife (don't try to talk me out of my big knives though ...hehehehe...!)

the mouse hawks i am making are a little bigger - mostly i just like the head size - and i am hafting them on longer handles just to see what they will do (initial impressions are WOW. )


anyways!

- do you brethren have some mini-hawks and hatchets that you love...?

Dude McLean of Dirttime.com, who is a field editor for Wilderness Way Magazine, almost always has his with him when i see him in the field.

got some pics...?

i'll show you mine when i get them finished this week (God Willing!).


i bet brother Ken C or Survival Sheath Systems could whip up some nice shoulder rigs for them.


muchas gracias, compadres.

vec
 
vec. Here is a small one I picked up from Raymond Richard. A real nice piece and just beautiful work. Feels real good in hand !
Made out of an old buggy axle, Ray named it Axle Roy which I think suits it just fine.
 
i've seen that one before somewhere!

that is hardcore!

any buddy own any of brother Mark Williams' stuff...?

vec
 
I wanna make a little short handled one with one of my trail hawks since the head is so small anyway.
 
I wanna make a little short handled one with one of my trail hawks since the head is so small anyway.

mine dropped a lot in weight with the poll lopped off.

i also took a little off the cheeks and under the beard on one and put it on a thin composite handle about 22 inches.

it really flies.

good battle hawk, good woods-bumming hawk.

vec
 
During the colonial period there were many small axes of the type you mention. They were referred to as "bag hawks". Frequently they were carried in a shooting pouch with the rest of the gear. There is not a great deal of information on these but they are presumed to have been used to break joints and whatnot when hunting. Even though I have seen some pretty small ones, they would still probably be better for breaking joints open than most of the utility knives of the day.
 
You got any pics of that trail hawk mousie you were talking about vec?

i probably will on monday, brother nsaglibene. - runnin' late as usual....

there are two actually, with different handles and head styles - one i am going to try to make good for carry on your hip, wrapped under a drop leg pistol holster or pouch, with a quick draw feature. - it isn't sharpened on the bottom so you can do a gross motor draw and not blast right through your glove with the sharpened beard. - i always try to develop combatives with each hawk i make - they are all individuals so far...:)....

anyway - that shorty i am going to try to work out a mount for on one of my 48-inch handle blanks - knifemaker Luke Swenson is a good buddy of mine and will have to try it out for me - if he can't destroy it, it is ready ...sheesh!....

he's a tough dude.

anyways, then you'd have a mousie, a solid lighweight hiking stick/hooch pole/tool handle and you'd have a poll axe and a mouse hawk wrapped in one.... that's the idea....



the other mousie is longer - with a beard ground into it, and a shark-point where it meets the primary edge - it also has the poll lopped off - i originally moused them because they had thin, slightly-bent bits, which i ground out, and half-assed a convex edge in - it'll be better when it is detailed...:cool:....

the long handled one is something - my regular 24 - 28 inch Gen 1 Mk 2 hawks are quick in the hand - but this little mouse is an angry little kangaroo rat! ...har...!

after that discussion about polls/no polls the other day, i can really appreciate the long mousie's swing poll-first - a low quarter attack to the top of an adversary's foot would make him cave, and then you would be in the perfect position for a groin/chest/face secondary strike on the recovery - you would mow through zombies like the Hurricane Katrina, sez i....


....and this is coming from a guy who loves hawks primarily for UTILITY.


....hawks break all the rules, they are weapons, they are tools....


when i get a real knife grinder i am definitely going to have to make more, and fancier.


....the meesez iz both just a mess right now, ...but i will get them dressed soon and get these ladies to hold still long enough for a pic.

probably ARPAT the little holster one and MULTICAM the long one.

....it shouldn't be long at all to get them looking respectable - i'll post the pics ASAP - but i wanna see what you fellow-babies already got!

c'mon now, brethren - don't be big teasers.

out with da pics, out with da pics.

:thumbup:

vec
 
Sounds cool Vec, I can't wait for pics.

I gave my first modded hawk to a friend for christmas, so I'm gonna start working on a mouse for myself tomorrow.
 
And I hope You are happy with them :)
Oh, I AM! Or was, anyways. I'm actually having withdrawal. I brought the second one with me to Korea, but they made me send it home right after I got here. I haven't touched a hawk in almost a full year! :eek: :(
 
Oh, I AM! Or was, anyways. I'm actually having withdrawal. I brought the second one with me to Korea, but they made me send it home right after I got here. I haven't touched a hawk in almost a full year! :eek: :(


Well that aint good !

You should be able to touch a tomahawk every day R. :)

Glad You're happy

Thanks for serving R. The invite to come forge one with me is always open.

Mark
 
Well that aint good !

You should be able to touch a tomahawk every day R. :)

Glad You're happy

Thanks for serving R. The invite to come forge one with me is always open.

Mark
I'm with you! I hated packing it up and sending it home! One of the saddest days I've had since I've been here. I very well might take you up on your offer to come forge one with you when I get out later this year (p.s. you have email). That sounds like fun and gives me a reason to take a little trip on my new motorcycle! haha :cool:

I like our location descriptions, as well. :thumbup:
 
And I hope You are happy with them :)

Why does Brother Vec inquire ? hmmm

hey don't make fun of my terrible condition of hawkophilia - that ain't a good brother....


because i want all them Williams meesez all to myself.

:thumbup:

and the regular ones too.

:cool:

vec
 
I dunno if you would consider it a mousie... but it's little

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By nsaglibene2, shot with iPhone at 2008-02-15
 
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