How could someone go about selling a KGB Balistic knife???

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TheMartialWay

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Hello all,

If someone had one of these cool yet extremely illegal knives, how could they go about selling it without getting a free trip to the big house? Is there an way to sell it as a "collectors item" or "military memorabilia"(sp?)

Any help would be appreciated.

P.S. this question is completely hypothetical
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I personally would not be caught dead with one of those evil dirty weapons of satanic mass distruction
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[This message has been edited by TheMartialWay (edited 08-16-2000).]
 
They are not illegal everywhere.

Just list it on the for sale forum with the notation that it is the seller's responsibility to comply with all applicable local laws. Obviously, you should not sell it to a person in a state where you know that such an item is illegal. Would you like a complete list? No, you don't. This is a rare "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil, and you will not get clobbered situations."


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Chuck
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Chuck,

Thanks for the info. By any chance would you happen to know what I, I mean, what Someone could get for one of these knives? Ya know, if they acually had one, which I don't
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Louis Buccellato
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Louis,

The knife is 100% illegal in ALL 50 states. It is a federal law.

Sec. 1245. Ballistic knives

-STATUTE-

(a) Prohibition and penalties for possession, manufacture, sale, or importation

Whoever in or affecting interstate commerce, within any Territory or possession of the United States, within Indian country (as defined in section 1151 of title 18), or within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States (as defined in section 7 of title 18), knowingly possesses, manufactures, sells, or imports a ballistic knife shall be fined as provided in title 18, or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
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Don't list it here or I will nuke it
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Anyone get any of those offered at teh SOF show in Orlando a few years back?
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Wow.

It is legal to own one in Oregon, but I guess that you'd have to keep it in Oregon and not let it be in or affect interstate commerce. So, Louis has got to sell it entirely within his own state assuming that it is even legal to own the thing within his state.

The other option would be to remove the spring and sell it separately.



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Chuck
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"The other option would be to remove the spring and sell it separately."

Would that work?? is it that simple??

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You, I mean, a hypothetical someone, might just want to keep a thread like this alive and hope for an email from an interested buyer, which could then be hypothetically forwarded to a hypothetical seller, if the situation were to arise.

Or, though a ballistic knife would be illegal, if there were one, a replica of a ballistic knife might be ok, so long as it was a replica and not a real ballistic knife. (Please don't ask me what exactly the difference is between a real ballistic knife and a replica, I wouldn't know even if the situation were not hypothetical).

Can't help you on the price though. Perhaps you could post a pic you found in a magazine and see if anyone recognizes it and might be able to tell you more about this knife which is pictured from a magazine.

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While I am not familar with the knife in question, I have encountered "Ballistic" knives that were properly regulated by the ATF as AOWs (Any Other Weapons) and controlled similarly to civilian owned machine guns and sound suppressors since they did not use a spring but a cartridge or some sort of powder charge to propel the blade.

I would urge anyone dealing with these types of things to carefully consider whether the reward of selling the item illegally is worth the risk of spending some time in jail and losing your right to vote the gun and knife hating socialists out of office and change the law to make these sorts of thing LEGAL for honest law abiding citizens! Selective enforcement of "switch blade" laws, knife laws in general and, the ever popular blame the gun not the person may allow people to sell items like this and evade prosecution but, legal fees in a successful defense would far outweigh any proceeds you get from the initial sale that caused the problem in the first place.

Play safe (and smart),
Sid
 
Chuck,

The knife is not legal to even own under federal law. The means you can not own it in any state, regardless of your state laws. In your case, even if the knife is legal in Oregon, the federal authorities can still confiscate them.

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I wonder how many people have ever been killed or injured by projectile blades from ballistic knife.

How would one hypothetically sell one? Very carefully! Among other things, if somebody ends up with it, who decides to be the first guy in his state ever to actually damage somebody with one, instead of doing it with the usual gun or kitchen knife or blunt instrument, you don't want somebody saying "Duh! I bought it from [your name] on the Internet!"

If sale and possession are not prohibited under your state and local law, and the thing was imported before Uncle Sam took notice, I don't think there would be any federal jurisdiction over it, but asking an attorney to confirm or deny that in writing might cost you more than the knife is worth, even if you haven't been busted over it.

And why would anybody want that hypothetical thing? Aside from the "forbidden fruit factor," that is.


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I have found that the most common ones are not of that much value to be worth the hassle of selling!! I see them popping up at gunshows and even there, don't command all that high of a price. I'm sure the sellers were NOT aware of the laws regarding them.
Has anyone ever seen a well made, precision one?? I wouldn't trust the one I am familiar with without the safety pin in place
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I have seen them for sale at gun shows in TN, But they did have the springs removed.
 
I have seen them for sale at gun shows in TN, But they did have the springs removed.
 
An M-16 (AR-15) spring is good for the ballistic knives I have seen and handled.

The ones I handled came directly from the Russian spatznaz - and were very well made.
 
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