How Dangerous is "Static" KaoWool?

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Hey guys,

My Tempering Toaster Oven has KaoWool wedged in the void around the chamber (under the shell) and lining some of the inside of the oven.

Are either of these locations dangerous?!

Originally I thought if the wool was static that it wasn't particularly dangerous... But I just wanted to make sure.


I plan on replacing the KaoWool on the inside of the toaster with this heat reflective material:



Inside:


Shell:




Thanks for the input... I just want to make sure I'm not screwing up!


JK
 
It is not an issue unless it becomes airborne as in a forge with no refractory coating. Even then it is more of a cautionary concern than a life threatening issue. It is bad to breathe any fibers is the main issue.
 
I wouldn't worry too much about it in your tempering oven. It's only a concern when it gets up over 2100-2200F. I know there are those who will discount this, quoting OSHA publications, but I have a friend who looked at the fibers under a microscope (electron?) and the fibers changed and look almost exactly like asbestos fibers when subjected to these really high temps.
 
10-4, thanks guys. I was just a little nervous about it... I'm happy to hear that without it being moved around and at lower temps (450F) it's safe un-coated!
 
You were probably exposed to more fibers installing it even if you were a mask. Loose fibers around the shop. As long as it isn't disturbed no problem. Just wear a mask and maybe do it outside if you have to open up the oven at any point.
 
I wanted to follow up on this with some actual documentation opposed to anecdotal evidence.
Here's a link to the CDC manual on RCFs (Refractory Ceramic Fibers): https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2006-123/
and a few excerpts from the CDC criteria that I feel are worth noting:

- According to Table 2-1 the diameter of post-production RCFs is 1.2 μm – 3 μm. Cheng et al. [1992] analyzed an air sample for fibers during removal of after-service RCF: (RCF that has been subjected to greater than 1,800 F (~1,000 C) and has partially converted to the silica polymorph cristobalite) and found fiber diameters as small as 0.5 μm (Pg 15-16).

- Longer and thicker (>3.5 μm in diameter) fibers are preferentially deposited in the upper airways. . . and are generally cleared via the mucociliary escalator (blowing your nose and coughing up phlegm). Thinner fibers tend to maneuver past airway bifurcations into smaller and smaller airways - (Pg 91)

- NIOSH concludes that RCFs are a potential occupational carcinogen. Furthermore, the evidence of pleural plaques . . .observed in persons with occupational exposures to airborne RCFs is clinically similar to that observed in asbestos-exposed persons after the initial years of their occupational asbestos exposures – (Pg 108)

- NIOSH concludes that on a continuum of fiber toxicity, RCFs relate more closely to asbestos than to fibrous glass and other SVFs and should be handled accordingly. – (Pg 111)

- increased exposures to airborne fibers have been linked to pleural plaques, small radiographic parenchymal opacities, decreased pulmonary function, respiratory symptoms and conditions (pleurisy, dyspnea, cough), and skin and eye irritation. Many of the respiratory effects showed a statistically significant association with RCF exposure after controlling or adjusting for potential confounders, including cigarette smoking and exposure to nonfibrous dust. – (Pg 89)

- the RCFC (Refractory Ceramic Fibers Coalition) recommends that workers wear respirators whenever the workplace fiber concentration is unknown – (Pg 96)

■ At a minimum, use a half-mask, air purifying respirator equipped with a 100 series particulate filter (this respirator has an assigned protection factor (APF) of 10 – (Pg 119)
- Respirators should not be used as the primary means of controlling worker exposures. Instead, NIOSH recommends using other exposure-reduction methods, such as product substitution, engineering controls, and changes in work practices. – (Pg 118)

I read the last point above to suggest that coating the RCF with castable refractory (would that be a change in work practice or engineering control?) is better than relying on a respirator to protect yourself.

Stay safe and have fun.
 
I agree with all that, but the OP was asking about a kao-wool blanket on the inside of toaster oven with no exposure to flame or way to become airborne.

Believe me ... if there was an issue, NIOSH,vCDC, and FDA would not allow then sold.
 
To be safe I may remove the exposed wool on the inside of the toaster... since this wool can be agitated accidentally from time to time... but leave the wool that I place inside the body of the toaster itself, since it's unlikely for this wool to be seriously moved around.

Another option may be to wrap the wool in layers of aluminum foil, in an effort to contain it?
 
I had typed to "wrapping with aluminum foil", but deleted it because someone would point out the possibility of an electrical short if it contacted the circuitry.
 
Believe me ... if there was an issue, NIOSH,vCDC, and FDA would not allow then sold.
Really? I don't want to hijack this topic, but I think you have a lot more faith than I do that regulatory bodies put public health ahead of business interests, Stacy. Do I need to bring up cigarettes? ;)
 
Apples and oranges, but I understand your point. Lets take any further discussion off thread.
 
I think the heat wave is caused by all the knifemakers with extra time on their hands running their forges and HT ovens too much.
 
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