How do I learn to sharpen a knife well

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Well at risk of sounding like a dumb a**, :o I do not know the proper way to sharpen my knives. Yes i even admit that I have sent several BM's back to oregon for an overhaul. Yes I would love to learn how so I don't have to ask someone else to do it for me. I hope I not the only Knife Knutt on this forum that has my problem. Most my knives will shave my arm hairs when I get then and six months to a year they still look nice, but no bite. Please will one of my fellow bladesman, lead me towards the rite resorses so I can graduate to the next level of Bladedom. I realize this may take years to perfect. thanks Scotty:o
 
The easiest and least expensive way is to invest in a Spyderco Sharpmaker. A couple of passes every once in awhile will keep the knife sharp. If you're looking to do free hand stuff, other members will probably chime in.

Personally, I own an Edge Pro Apex and Sharpmaker for sharpening duties. :D
 
I just hope to be a good knife sharpener you didt have to learn from your grand papy when we were 10 yrs old :D
 
RTF - It is very Easy. You have gotten half way there just by asking your question. Here is my $.02.

1. Join this forum.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=794

and this forum

http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showforum.php?fid/48/


2. Carefully read the last two months of postings relating to sharpening, making a note of any questions that you come up with.


3. Ask them.


4. Once you have decided what knife-sharpening tools you want to proceed with it is a matter of practice. Keep plugging away and you too will be a master wizard ninja jedi-knight knife sharpener like the rest of us.

Here is a link to what our resident guru Mr. Joe Talmadge has to say about knife steel and sharpening. He can sharpen knives to a razor edge left-handed, in the dark, while standing on his head, I think.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=368828

Here is a link that has some good pictures and illustrations to help with the terminology used in knife sharpening.

http://forums.egullet.com/index.php?showtopic=26036

It sounds to me like you already have the basic idea down and I'm sure you can step up to the next level very easily.
 
the egullet tutorial is great. What I did was get a cheap Gatco kit to get used to angles and learn compund bevels, now I'm attempting freehand.
 
rocktheflock,

YYou can find a lot of information in "The Toolshed: Knife Care, Maintenance, Tinkering & Embellishment" part of this forum http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=794
Spyderco Sharpmaker is a great tool. You use it without oil or water, so no mess and you can sharpen any kind of knife: plain edge, serrated edge, also any kind of tools and it comes with great instructional DVD; just watch it couple times and your knives will be sharper than they come from BM. It will take longer time to reprofile a blade, but it could be done too or you will need to get diamond stone or rods.
Anyway, in my opinion sharpmaker is a very good sharpening tool.

R
 
Another honest knife nut! I have always been ashamed of my knife-sharpening skills (with a hand-held stone) and long ago just gave up and use a Smith's two-station pre-set "v-stone" set-up. It costs $8.99 at Wally World - are the more expensive Spyderco ones that much better?
 
1. Buy a sharpening stone.
2. Sharpen a knife.
--repeat step 2 with multiple knives until proficient.

Of course you don't want to practice on your expensive Benchmades. So the best way to learn is on kitchen knives. If you don't have a bunch of kitchen knives to practice on go buy some old used ones at a Goodwill Thrift Store. You can also practice on your friends' kitchen knives.

I would buy a basic 8-inch two-sided aluminum oxide bench hone from an Ace hardware store. I would NOT get a silicon carbide hone since it will leave a rougher edge finish. Something like this would do to start:
http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/(d2t4g1vc43qk4t55s05jii55)/ProductDetails.aspx?SKU=21165

Read the FAQ's etc to explore technique. Keep working on kitchen knives until you are sure that you can do a good job without scratching up your good knives.

If you have serrated knives get a Spyderco Sharpmaker.
 
I'm one of the ones here that actually did learn from my grandfather when I was about 10 years old! :D I still have his two sided stone (course / fine) and it still works great sharpening and honing. With that said, I'm rarely 100% happy with the edges I manage to produce. Seems like I always want my blades to be just a little bit sharper.

When I learned some 35 years ago, my grandfather gave me a "sacrificial" knife to practice on.
 
Practice.


...sorry, couldn't help it. :)



Seriously though, if you haven't got someone who can teach you how to use a stone in person, get a sharpmaker or a Lansky. Once you become proficient with these, you'll begin to grasp the concepts behind how sharpening works. Then, you can really learn how to sharpen your knives, and move to a flat bench stone.
 
check out the sharpening faqs, and practice.

that is really all there is to it. Just reading through the faqs and understanding how an edge should be is half the battle. The other half is practicing so that you can actually do it. Getting a Sharpmaker helps with that part. With a sharpmaker, a course benchstone and the knowlege, you can sharpen almost anything.
 
Although they're at the higher end of the $$$ scale, I highly recommend the Edge Pro sharpeners as the best around. I finally shelled out the money for the Apex model with all the stones, and am amazed at the quality of the edge it produces. Beautiful mirror polished edges! Incredibly sharp! Worth every penny! :thumbup: One of the great things about EdgePro is that the owner/designer is really happy to discuss any questions or special sharpening issues you might have through email. You really can't go wrong with the Edge Pro.

The Spyderco Sharpmaker is an excellent value for the money. It's only weakness is when you have to sharpen a very dull knife, or otherwise reprofile a blade. At that point, you're in for a long, tedious bit of work. The Sharpmaker really shines at keeping sharp knives sharp (assuming they are already sharpened at the Sharpmaker's pre-set angles). It's also really quick and easy to set up.

Sharpening free-hand is an art that just takes a lot of practice to learn, and is only mastered by a few. I'm not one of them, though freehand sharpening was my only method for over 40 years, and I kept my knives razor sharp - it took work, and wasn't that pretty.

The "Toolshed" here on BF has lots of info - go over the postings, follow the links, and you'll soon be a well-informed learner!
 
:thumbup: another vote for the sharpmaker. Dont need much skill, gets your blade VERY sharp very fast and its cheaper than alot of other stuff. Had mine for a while and use it on every knife, even my 9.5 inch bladed tigershark :eek: .
 
FWIW here's my 2 cents,

Having been sharpening my own blades for the last 30+ years I've come to notice a few things in regards to what you use to sharpen a knife. Diamond hones remove massive amounts of steel and sharpen a blade fast but even with the finest hone you will still need to finish your blade on a strop or ceramic hone to smooth out the edge. Always sharpen at the desired angle,(between 17-24 degrees, depending on the thickness of the blade) till you get a wire edge on one side, (the best way to feel for this is to slide your thumbnail from the spine side, or back of the blade towards the edge) when you encounter a wire edge it will feel like a little lip has formed where the wire edge has rolled over. Next sharpen the opposite side till you achieve the same result. Done on a Fine Diamond Hone, finish off by repeating the process using lighter pressure on each subsequent stroke and the wire edge will become smaller. When the wire edge is barely noticeable with your fingernail. Finish with a leather strop and stropping compound by applying a reasonable amount of force and dragging the blade backwards on the leather at a slightly less angle than you sharpened,(the leather will actually curl around the edge of the blade and wear off the wire edge) after a few strokes on the leather on both side you should have a finished edge. When the edge of the sharpened blade is rested on the smooth part of your thumbnail it will dig in, (bite into the nail with no additional pressure), Your knife should now be shaving sharp.

Diamonds are more aggressive and faster than wet stones or oilstones but will accomplish the same results with a smoother more polished edge, and depending on the grit of the stone may take a lot longer. The key either way is repetition, the more you perform the same task your brain starts memorizing the pathways through your body needed to accomplish this task. Eventually holding an angle, smoothness of stroke, all become second nature, and the task becomes easier. That’s why it always looks easier when someone else whose good at it does it.

My way is not the only way but it works for me, if you feel confident enough to attempt your own blades, start on a cheaper knife that your not afraid of ruining, and remember it’s easier to sharpen a knife that’s not dull, than to sharpen one that is. So don’t wait till your knife won’t even cut butter before you dress up that edge. LOL

PS as for my preference I prefer a diamond hone just because I think it's quicker, and more versatile I can accomplish the same thing with one hone by just varying pressure to the blade as I sharpen.

All the above advice from the other Forumites is all right on the money, the bottom line is how involved/to what degree you want to sharpen, do you want to touch up an edge and extend the serviceable life of the factory edge, or do you want to regrind factory bevels to a more specific task like some of the knife psychos that haunt these hallowed forums,(I won't mention any names, we, I mean you all know who you are.

Welcome to the forums, pay attention and you'll see there's a lot of collective knife knowledge and expertise availble for the learning here.
 
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