How do you Bank a Fire?

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I'm curious how you all bank your coals/fire assuming you're going to stay at one location for several days? I have a couple different methods that work well for me, but am always curious how others do things...

Please do tell...inquiring minds gotta know! :D
 
You have to have a fair amount of glowing coals .You then put them all together and cover with ashes. That works for outdoors or stoves.Under severe conditions [wind etc] you'll need more protection and insulation.
 
I like the nessmuk method with the leanto style build, usually lasts all night anyway. Out here the only wood we have is sagebrush and pine, both of which burn very fast. Usually I just make the fire big enough so as the coals are still glowing in he morning.
 
Ditto what was said above. If I'm using pine (usually the case for where I camp) then I get a large pile of coals together and cover them in ashes, dirt or sand. Sometimes pine still burns out for me, so I obviously don't have this perfected.

If I'm using hardwoods then it's much easier and it takes less ashes, dirt or sand and I rarely lose my coals by morning.
 
Easiest way is to build the fire in a hole, build a good fire and try to end the fire with good hardwood, the pit means you are making a nest of coals for the morning. Keep tinder and kindling close and it's an easy job getting the morning fire going.
 
Usually the size of fires I keep for extended periods of time, IE a night or longer, have at least 4 inches, many times more, of solid coal base. maybe if you bury charred, half burned wood in active coals they will still be smoldering in the morning.
 
The last time I needed a banked bed of coals to stay warm was winter camping here in Brazil. I was only using a bivy bag and poncho liner and overnight lows were down about 50 degrees. That's not brutal weather by any stretch but it was cold enough to wake me up at o'dark hundred.

I had a large flat rock set up at the back of the fire. Towards bedtime I would burn a large volume of hardwood and once it had burned down I would bank the coals up against that rock and put on a few larger hardwood logs. It really made a difference all night to have that heat reflecting into my shelter.
 
Just like others have said, keep a pile of embers burried. Sometimes, however, heavy dew or rain comes along and makes it a bit tougher to keep the embers glowing, so if I feel it will rain while I am gone or asleep, I try to find large flat rocks or slabs of shale and kind of build a little shelter over the coalbed. I also make sure I keep a few extinguished black charcoal pieces in a container, all nice and dry. They help with re-igniting the glowing embers.
 
i get my fire going raging hot down to massive glowing embers. Then i lay down 5 big firewood pieces, about 6" wide x 48" long. I then add ANOTHER pile the alternating way.

in the morning i stumble out of the forest floor and stir the embers up, throwing on small bits of dry wood until there is flame and then i add more wood to make morning fire.
 
The only thing I haven't seen mentioned is using rocks as a heat sink to store heat ( think Hungi or ground oven) and the bury under ash I believe one of the crucial thigs is to exclude fresh air getting in.
Carl
 
The rocks I use sure do get hot, even when acting only as a roof in the event of moiture. I wonder, however, just how useful that radiant heat really is in keeping the coals alive. :confused:
 
The rocks I use sure do get hot, even when acting only as a roof in the event of moiture. I wonder, however, just how useful that radiant heat really is in keeping the coals alive. :confused:

not much, think of how much exposure the coals have to wet, cold ground and the air. They are bleeding energy in an almost complete spherical bubble around the fire. Hot rocks aren't going to do much for that.
 
That was my thinking also. Perhaps, however, the rocks serve as an advance defense against heavy dew/rain, boiling off any introduced moisture. This is probably the reason why even a crude shelter of rocks over the coal bed still serves remarkably well at keeping the coals hot and dry.
 
I keep forgetting how "wet" the dirt can get Up North.
Rarely much of a problem here. Most time anyway.
Carl
 
Yep, it sucks the life right out of a fire. I had some guys tell me once they could only sustain a fire here in the North Wet as long as they kept a lot of pitchwood on the fire. I asked them what did they put down for a base? They said, "nuth'n but the dirt of the earth."

Well there you go...in our part of the world you need something under the fire at least at first until one can build an adequate heat source to sustain the fire and begin to dry out the earth. But with our 60 to 90% humidity, rain/fog/dampness coupled with wet wood one has to really pay attention to the details to keep a sustainable warming fire, at least in the earliest stages.

Running a fire in this level of dampness isn't really a big deal, it is just most don't really understand the mechanics going on and so they have to consume a lot of calories, time and frustration to keep it going.

Once mastering the basics, a person can literally walk out into a rain soaked forest here equipped with a few matches and a hatchet/ax during a downpour and be able to successfully build a very warm/intense sustaining long-term fire without the use of petro soaked cotton balls, candles, steel wool, a road flare, gasoline, store bought tinder, and all the other urban shortcuts that people espouse. Mastering the fundamentals is all that is needed, and that takes time coupled with mentoring with someone who has already figured it out.

My grandfather was an Oregon woodsman and was born in 1898. He learned from an early age how to live in the woods, and he wouldn't let me go home until i could build a fire with a couple matches in the rain. He taught me to chop wood using an ax both right and left handed so I had no excuse for not being able to finish the job regardless of the circumstances. Gosh I miss him. Thank you Grandpa!
 
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