how do you guys put your enduras back together

sixstrings101

sixstrings101

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With Out Throwing Them Across The Damn Room!!!!!

alright im cooled off now. usually i have no problem putting things like this back together. but the god damn pin on the back spacer wont fit in both sides of the liner properly
 
I'm hoping someone might be able to give some better advise than mine. All of the lock back knives I've ever owned until recently were pretty small and this worked fine for them, but it was a bit of a PITA with my Delica that I recently bought. What I've always done was re-assemble the knife without the spring and lock bar, then slide the spring into place and then you have to press the lock bar down against the force of the spring until you can get the holes lined up and slide the pin or screw in. As I said, I've never had much trouble doing this on the few little lock backs that I've had that could be taken apart, but with the Delica the spring is so strong that it's really tough to get the holes lined up. I'm hoping there's a better way, but at least this is better than trying to fit the spring and lock bar in there with one side of the handle off and having it fly apart on you every time you look at it wrong, if that's what you've been trying to do.

PS. . . This might be a good question to ask in the tool shed forum.
 
I thought they just mailed them to me for that! :D

Seriously, you put the spacer back in with the spring and lock bar where they belong. Then tighten it all together without the blade in place.

This way you do not squish the little nipples on the spring holder and permanently damage them.

Now its the hard part. What I recommend is a dental explorer which you can buy on the internet. Doesn't even have to be a real good quality one, just something that small helps. I've done it with a very small screwdriver like you use for your glasses also.

Once it is all together except for the blade put the blade in so the lockbar grabs it as it should and get it pretty close to where it needs to be so you can see through the pivot hole. You will have to depress the lockbar steadily for this. Once its in place slide one washer in place. This one will be fairly easy. Using your small tool help coax it in until you can see the start of the hole in the center of the washer then using a 1/8" diameter tool like your typical torx driver for the T6 screws you line it up good as it needs to be sliding the tool shaft in and around to slide the pivot through.

Slide the pivot through but not all the way. You need to leave room for the other washer on the opposite side. Now things are tighter in the pivot so this next one is harder but it can be done, so just flip the knife, while still keeping the lock bar from getting away from you.

You should be looking down into the pivot barrel now and at this point you want to finesse the next and final washer in like the last one only this time you may need to use the small explorer or screwdriver to help center it. Once close you slide the pivot through. If it catches the edges of the washer don't force it, finesse it. Use the driver tool to spin it around if you need to. Once its lined up slide the pivot all the way in till it seats and tighten it down.

Are you regretting taking that thing apart yet? :D Thought so. Its a royal PITA but it must be done this way or it will most always damage that spacer in the rear that is under spring tension.

STR
 
I had thought that it might be a bit easier that way STR, but I couldn't figure out how to get the washers back in there. Thanks for the advise.
 
Yeah, well unfortunately there is not an easy way with this model or the D4 once they are apart. These are the classic examples of how easy a folder can be to get apart and how hard they are to get back together at times. The fact that they are Japanese made makes the tolerances that much tighter but this is the way I have done it probably 30 or more times for knives belonging to forum members.

I have tried every way I could think of and if someone has a better way, I'm all ears.

STR
 
god damn that was a HUGEEEEE pain in my butt. never again..lesson learned!

Thanks everyone..STR that dental pick did the trick with those pesky washers


i seriously hope these are put together by machines not people
 
It's easy to put an Endura together... Just buy it pre-assembled and don't mess with it. (Least that's what I do) :D
 
Never done the E4 but the D4s and a few of the birds go together very quick and easy with the lock bar being the last piece. Put tape on the sharp part of the blade especially if it has teeth. Engage the lock into the tang and use the blade and your other hand/finger to press down on the back of the lock untill the (lock) pivot can be inserted. If you already have the pivot started, it just takes one finger to push it through when things are lined up. Getting the bar in place takes less than 10 seconds after you have done it a few times. All of the rest goes easy without the bar. I suspect that I could assemble the entire D4 in about 2 minutes without any danger to the plastic spacer. I'll try it tomorrow. When dissassembling I drop the blade out first.
 
I'm a glutton for punishment, so I had to give STR's advise a try. I found it to be much easier than my (and oli's) method. I didn't take the whole knife apart, just dropped the blade out of my D4W, and I used a very thin piece of plastic instead of the dental pick to position the washers when I put it back together. Worked like a charm. Oh, I also used a small pair of needle nosed vise grips with plenty of padding to hold the lock down and free up a hand. I may try practicing putting the bar in last a couple more times to see if I can reach oli's level of proficiency, but I think I'm probably going to end up preferring STR's method.
 
I've had all of my D4s apart several times, and STR's method is the only way I've found to get them back together and make sure that the tabs on the spacer stay in their holes. It's not really difficult once you do it a couple of times, but those first r/a tries are tricky.
 
D4 disassemble and reassemble times. Tools used: Craftsmen T6 and T9 . Started with blade open and taped. The clip was not on. The only part not disassembled was the waved washer on the pivot screw. On reassemble, all screws were "snug". On reassemble the lockbar and pivot go on last. Disassemble time, 60 seconds. Reassemble time, 2 minutes and 30 seconds. There were two abandonded attempts on the reassembly because I saw that I needed a better layout of the parts and it is better to put all but the last screw in while the knife is on the table. I've only had my two D4s fully apart about 6 times previously but I did spend plenty of time examining all parts and fine tuned/cleaned up nearly every part/piece of them. EDC for past 5 months. Expect many years of service.
 
I've never taken down a spydie, but my Byrds, and my other tinker toys just get a small dab of Tetra lube on the blade that holds the washers where they are, and I just put the thing back together, I have fine tuned them a bit with a small screwdriver, but that's all. Now my first dis. & re. on my Robo Blaze was a "handful of parts before I got to see where they came from" disaster, that was about 4 re-assemblies before I got the combination right. I am a hopeless tinkerer, and can't hardly buy a folder without screws anymore. I bought my wife an SS Byrd Robin, and it drives me nuts wanting to rip it open and mirror polish everything.
 
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